I like the way you played it.

I hate reraising mid pairs PF unless your short stacked and it's an all-in. Good flop bet. You can't raise the turn with the A and your out of position. The river just check it, I see 8s-Qs playing it pretty much the same. I don't think any other hands raise from MP1, just call a bet on that flop, and then check it down.

I'm guessing MP1 had 9s. They're are a few other specific hands I'm thinking of that could be really strangely played here, but that depends on MP1. For the strange hands, I'm thinking something like quad 4s, Ks full or some trash that still beats you, A3, K2, 42, 74.

Originally Posted by Maf1889

I like the way you played it.

I hate reraising mid pairs PF unless your short stacked and it's an all-in. Good flop bet. You can't raise the turn with the A and your out of position. The river just check it, I see 8s-Qs playing it pretty much the same. I don't think any other hands raise from MP1, just call a bet on that flop, and then check it down.

I'm guessing MP1 had 9s. They're are a few other specific hands I'm thinking of that could be really strangely played here, but that depends on MP1. For the strange hands, I'm thinking something like quad 4s, Ks full or some trash that still beats you, A3, K2, 42, 74.

He checked turn adn river, pretty sure he didnt have a boat or quads,lol I think he had pocket 10s or Jacks

mp1 has 88-QQ, or a weak K

why would yould lead the flop? I'm raising alot of hands here and you are obv folding 99.

Originally Posted by Maf1889

Why not lead the flop?

because a smart villian wont be able to put him on a strong hand.

leading into the pf raiser is generally done by people with a weak hand. people do it with draws thinking they have a bit of fold equity (which may be the case)
and they do it with hands like 99 on this board, with the mentality "ok, ill bet here, if im raised i can dump it, my hand is probably good though so ill most likley take it down"

its not terrible thinking, but in my mind, its a weak, transparent play, and thats why i said i would raise in the villians spot with a hand like AQ. you can represent a hand like KQ, and even if you are called you have 6 outs.

Generally here I prefer a check call just because it induces villians to bet with worse hands than 99, and you can typically show down unless you are beat.

however against some villains they will fold here every time unless they can beat the board (or, call you and fold a TTish on the turn) and if this is who was in the hand then by all means lead right into them.

basically, in summary, its really transparent, gets most hands you can beat to fold, and there is a chance you are going to get bluffed off the pot on the flop.

Check calling the same size bet makes it impossible to get bluffed off the flop(most villains slow down on the turn), induces worse hands to bet, and generally costs the same as the amount you would have led with.

How much are you willing to check/call off with your pair of 9s? Let's say the turn isn't a bad card for the 9s, a 5h. You already check/called a raise of 800 from the villian on the flop. Then you check/call the turn again?

Originally Posted by Maf1889

How much are you willing to check/call off with your pair of 9s? Let's say the turn isn't a bad card for the 9s, a 5h. You already check/called a raise of 800 from the villian on the flop. Then you check/call the turn again?

no

if he bets again I can fold, spending about the same amount I did if I would have lead the flop.