WTF - Preflop Action

**Meldon** · 01-15-2007

CO in this hand has just bluffed of most of his stack with J9s without a pair or draw about 5 hands ago. Even before that he was very aggressive and raised a fair few hands by up to 6x BB, not shown down any. I think he's tilting.

I haven't been involved in any big hands yet.

***** Hand History for Game 15697187 *****
0.25/0.50 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Mon Jan 15 13:38:13 EST 2007
Table Card Room Table 51 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9

Seat 1: UTG ($65.65)
Seat 2: UTG + 1 ($10)
Seat 3: MP1 ($103)
Seat 4: Hero (MP2) ($73.75)
Seat 5: MP3 ($57.25)
Seat 6: CO ($17.60)
Seat 7: Button ($9.25)
Seat 8: SB ($39.60)
Seat 9: BB ($24.35)

SB posts small blind (0.25)
BB posts big blind (0.50)

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Hero (MP2)

UTG raises (2) to 2
UTG + 1 calls (2)
MP1 folds.
Hero (MP2) raises (6) to 6
MP3 folds.
CO raises (17.60) to 17.60
CO is all-In.
Button folds.
SB folds.
BB folds.
UTG calls (15.60)
UTG + 1 calls (8)
UTG + 1 is all-In.

Hero_________?

**Maf1889** · 01-15-2007

I throw it away. Have to think your beat after an all-in and 2 callers. Think you need to reraise it more PF also, make it 8-10.

**the alex** · 01-15-2007

Yeah. Make this $10 preflop. Raising to 6'll still make this a 3-way pot at least. Taking it down preflop isn't bad, but you have to isolate at least and the only way to do that is to make a bet that can win it preflop. It's only $7.60 to you but I'd want the stacks to be deeper so the reverse implied odds aren't against me. Fold. His call's weak and there's $45+ in the pot, so pushing does have value, but you can push with the best hand and still lose a lot.

Tough spot.

**pj94z** · 01-17-2007

Raise to $8 PF. And, call the shove if there are no other callers.

As played, it looks like 2 of the opponents are short-stacked, so I don't put them on a great hand...but A high is likely.

The person you should be most worried about of course is the UTG with $65.
I would put him on a mid PP at this point or AK/AQ.

Only time I'll really lay down QQ is if I feel certain the guy has KK/AA or if the raise is abnormally large amount (all in).

Also, with so many callers, it would be safe to assume that many of them share cards: A or K are most likely. Therefore, they may have each others outs leaving you as a big fave to win.

I would call here...b/c you're getting great pot-odds and you're gold if you flop a set. If flop has A or K, I'd check/fold.... but, I'm def seeing a flop since I'm getting great odds.

**Meldon** · 01-18-2007

Thanks - I take the point about raising more pf, given there was a raise and a caller.

As it played out and I saw the action after me and thought that 1 of them had aces or kings. I decided to fold.

UTG had AK
UTG + 1 had JJ
Tilt Monkey had AJ.

I was worried about UTG mainly, and if I had spent a bit more time considering his flat call of tilt monkeys all in then I may have reached a different decision.

FWIW - A Q appeared on the flop and I would have picked up a monster pot, but I suppose I made a read and acted on it.

PJ94Z - You're right about the pot odds. I've got to be honest and say that at the time I didn't realise that I was getting around 5-1. I was trying to decipher the pre-flop action to put people on hands when really the price I was getting meant that even if they did have higher PPs (especially UTG) then it was worth a call. After the hand I read the HH back again and realised that I might have made a mistake - hence posting on here.

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