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  1. 01-14-2007 #1
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    Default bad push?

    im not sure i feel about this hand

    yes i havfe a good hand on the bubble but did i make the right play?

    did he make the right play?


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    saw flop|saw showdown

    BB (t1980)
    Hero (t3250)
    Button (t3850)
    SB (t4420)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with T, A.
    Hero raises to t3225, Button calls t3225, 2 folds.

    Flop: (t6525) Q, 2, 5 (2 players)

    Turn: (t6525) 9 (2 players)

    River: (t6525) 6 (2 players)

    Final Pot: t6525

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    Hero has Td Ac (high card, ace).
    Button has Kd Ad (flush, ace high).
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  2. 01-14-2007 #2
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    I lean towards folding here.

    The only hands I push all in preflop on the bubble are pretty much all pocket pairs, and AQo+

    If I had BBs stack then Im pushing this hand.

    BB has an M of 3.3
    whereas you have an M of around 5.4

    Until my M drops to around 3.5ish (2000 chips) on the bubble Im not going to consider getting all my chips in with a hand as marginal as this.
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  3. 01-14-2007 #3
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    i feel like ur right, i insta pushed this and didnt think about the situation
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    I'm not a SNG expert but seems a push to me.

    He must need AQ+ or TT+ to call there (AQ/AK and TT/JJ are probably not certain calls either but we assume most will call with them).

    With your stack here you can put alot of pressure on other players however if you blind away for a couple of rounds you may end up pushing a weaker hand than AT with 2.5k chips into a BB with 5k and therefore much smaller fold equity,
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    I push this almost every time in that situation, unlucky to run in to a bigger hand here. You can't sit around waiting for much bigger hands.

    Out of interest, how close is it to the next blind esclation?
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    The stacks are even that I disagree with Dizzy about having BB's stack being a factor as being the CL. What's more relevant is thae the small stack is on your right, not your left, so you can't afford to fold this and wait. Nice push.
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  7. 01-14-2007 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by jharding666 View Post
    I push this almost every time in that situation, unlucky to run in to a bigger hand here. You can't sit around waiting for much bigger hands.

    Out of interest, how close is it to the next blind esclation?
    Something I should of asked when I first saw this thread.

    Blind esclation is important. If this is a turbo the push is good. I just dont push this hand if its not a turbo.
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    To me that's a definite push. The M of 5 says you have to something soon before your raises lose fold equity and being on the bubble should make you more aggressive not more passive (dizzy you seemed to be suggesting more passive play on the bubble, correct me if i'm wrong though). 4 handed and shortstacked, A10 is not a marginal hand, it's a no brainer push imo. If you run into a hand that dominates you, it's just unlucky.
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    yeah it was a turbo..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzy_Fuzz View Post
    I lean towards folding here.

    The only hands I push all in preflop on the bubble are pretty much all pocket pairs, and AQo+

    If I had BBs stack then Im pushing this hand.

    BB has an M of 3.3
    whereas you have an M of around 5.4

    Until my M drops to around 3.5ish (2000 chips) on the bubble Im not going to consider getting all my chips in with a hand as marginal as this.
    lol, you think AT is too weak here?

    lol

    i would push AT here, i would push many weaker hands too.

    folding AT here is soooo weak.


    pushing any 2 here utg is probably reasonable
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