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  1. #1
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    Default 78 makes a straight - Analyze

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    SB ($198)
    BB ($192.75)
    UTG ($240.75)
    MP ($258.55)
    CO ($200)
    Hero ($253.50)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, 8.
    1 fold, MP calls $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2,

    SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: ($8) 6, 5, 8 (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6, BB folds, MP folds.

    Turn: ($20) 9 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $16, SB raises to $40,


    So, what should I be doing here?
    Last edited by the alex; 01-11-2007 at 11:29 PM.

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    Taking a few moments then cold calling. Appear weak. If he has a 7 then it is a split pot anyway.

    My only real concern is a set which could river a boat and possibly a semi bluff flush draw.

    I think you got one on the hook. I have the best hand and making a 1/2 pot sized bet on the river hoping for a re-raise (unless flush or river pirs the board).

    Other option is to re-raise pot sized or all in to eliminate the flush draw.

    Depends on the player also. Has he showed down a lot of hands?? Got a read on him?
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    Dont rule out him having T7 here.

    Thats what scares me the most. I would say hes almost definately got a 7, its a unprofitable move to make with 99 (or similar) on a board so coordinated as this one.

    Id most likely flat call and hope for a card such as a Q, K or Ace or a lower card like a 2 3 or 4, id pray the river didnt bring 3 cards to a flush and hope that it didnt bring a 7.

    I wouldnt even rule out a hand such as TJh here... but its less likely.

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    I think:

    a. raise PF
    b. call turn, call river. prolly chopping the pot. sometimes he has you. I doubt you take this whole pot down more than 20% of time.

    This is a very dificult situation btw. How will you react to a 50-70$ river bet? if you won't call, I suggest you fold now.
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    I'd rather raise to $10 PF, but nothing wrong with calling in position.

    Flop- Good.

    Turn- No way he's on an FD, but he has a hand, you probably sucked out on his set. I say this because he's not making a raise that any bettor can fold to here, but he consciously didn't minraise either. There's $76 in the pot and he has $150 left behind him. You can 3-bet him up to $110 and call a push. He won't have the odds to draw to the full house, but he isn't laying down a set. Shoving isn't awful, but I'd rather call than shove. Problem with calling is that he'll slow down if the flush hits.

    You can see a lot of tough rivers, so I'd prefer to 3-bet and call a push. If he just calls the $70 and the board pairs and he pushes, you'll have a decision, but you'll also have 4:1 on the call. If he checks the board pairing, you can check behind. Any other river, you're calling a push or pushing if he checks. If the flush hits, you're committed, too. Only FD's I see him having contain a 7 and overall, the only T7, he'll have'll be suited. With all of this, you can see where 3-betting the turn makes things easier and gets you the most value, IMO.
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    OK, here is what I did on the Turn:

    Turn: ($20) 9

    (2 players) SB checks, Hero bets $16, SB raises to $40, Hero calls $24.

    River: ($100) J

    (2 players)
    SB bets $86, Hero ????


    Now, he insta-bets on river after JavaScript appears. I get that sick feeling again. I have no reads on the player...new table.

    I have to call $86 into a $186 pot... getting approx 2-1.

    What to do here? Can I fold the straight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by the alex View Post
    You can 3-bet him up to $110 and call a push.
    Definitely the way to go IMO, then you don't get that kind of decision on the river.

    As for that river, I think you're looking at a split at best, i fold it. I just can't see him having a set and still firing when another co-ordinated card comes out. i honestly don't think you win the whole pot enough (30%ish) to make this call +ev.
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