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    Default JJ final table of donkfest

    Ok I was in the VC student poker championship qualifier freeroll, roughly 200 people with the winner getting a seat to the online semi-final later on in the year. Anyway, got to the final table and the last 7, blinds were 1600/3200, I had a stack of 79k which was about 4th. The table was pushing alot but not many were getting called, I had been incredibly tight (mainly cos I was card dead, but they didn't know that). No specific reads on the villain in this hand.

    I got JJ in middle position and raised 4xBB up to 16k. One caller who had me just covered.

    Flop comes Th 7h Kd

    He checks, what should I do here?

    Edit: call was from the BB
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    JJ is a strong hand with only one over card. You need to know where you stand at this point. I would lead out with a probe bet, somewhere around 35%-60%, tending towards 35% of the pot. Strength PF combined with a tight image should pick up the pot right there.

    If I'm called, I'll check behind on a blank turn.

    A check raise from villain, likely all in, on the flop will have me laying down the hand.
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    Shove and take it down. Even in a total donkfest, no reason to raise to more than 10k preflop, Then you can bet 12k'ish on a flop like this and get away, but even then a large pot-committing bet isn't bad. you probably have the best hand and you don't wanna give him CR-fold equity with a draw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the alex View Post
    Shove and take it down. Even in a total donkfest, no reason to raise to more than 10k preflop, Then you can bet 12k'ish on a flop like this and get away, but even then a large pot-committing bet isn't bad. you probably have the best hand and you don't wanna give him CR-fold equity with a draw.
    Should mention I made a mistake in the first post. I had him just covered but not by much. anyway....

    I was thinking about the shove but instead went for a 25k bet (pot was about 33k). He came over the top all in and it was 30k to call. Can I call this?
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    Yeah. There's about 120k in the pot and only 30 to call. You're a coin flip or 2:1 fav enough for this call to be profitable, I think. That's why I'm saying you're PF raise committed to the pot on flops like this.
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    Ok I called and he showed KhQh which couldn't be much worse, gg. Barely anything left I was out next hand.

    See what your saying about the smaller PF raise but am I not risking pricing people in with a vulnerable hand? I wanted to take the pot without seeing a flop and if I give the blinds odds to call I won't know where I'm at.
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