I wouldn't have folded here. The only hand you can be scared of is a set or tens up that rivered the boat. The only hand that you might have expected to play like this is T2. T7, T9 or a set i would have expected a raise on the flop or turn, so if he has that then well done to him.

That isnt the nut straight 8 J is...

On the flop, I will bet pot (maybe a little more than the pot). Then with the 2nd flush card coming on the turn im more inclined to push all in, since if they call then they dont have correct pot odds to call for the flush.

Against a solid player I will fold this river about half of the time, the other half probably sends me on minor tilt.

Originally Posted by Dizzy_Fuzz

That isnt the nut straight 8 J is...

On the flop, I will bet pot (maybe a little more than the pot). Then with the 2nd flush card coming on the turn im more inclined to push all in, since if they call then they dont have correct pot odds to call for the flush.

Against a solid player I will fold this river about half of the time, the other half probably sends me on minor tilt.

There's no flush card. But you're right sorry, I didn't flop the nuts, no idea why I didn't see that, well pointed out, he could have J8.

The size of your river bet sucks.

Any two pair hand like a 9x is going to call, but probably would have called quite a bit more and feels he just got let off easy.

Any Tx (nonboat) hand is probably going to raise allin, but is never folding to any bet of yours anyway, so you migh make it a bit more.

Any full house is gonna push on your ass, and you're not deep enough to considering folding, so it's not like you lose less to better hands by leading 1/5 pot.

Finally, the flop did not have a ton going for it draw wise, so it's unlikely that villain has a busted hand that he decided to bluff with over your janky bet.

Basically I think you need to bet more. What works pretty well with this hand is if you pot the flop and pot the turn, you can push all in on the river with being too much of an overbet. Although actually, given that his most likely hand is a T, as played you might as well just overbet push river anyway since it's not like he is folding.

im not surprised at all you lead out, i do the same.
however i bet more on the river, and call a push.

nothing you can do here, he goes broke here most of the time, he got lucky.

on the river he could have lots of hands you beat too, in low/middle stakes sngs people with Tx go broke here every time.