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Old 11-06-2006, 06:01 PM
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There was a hand ealier about betting the river, and now here's another example. I seriously thought of checking, hoping for him to bet/bluff and then decided to raise a bit and decided on 300 - less than half-pot.

Any advice on how I could have extracted more?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG+1 (t1320)
Hero (t3240)
MP2 (t1020)
CO (t2235)
Button (t1325)
SB (t4440)
BB (t1650)
UTG (t1510)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J, J.
2 folds, Hero raises to t90, MP2 calls t90, 4 folds.

Flop: (t225) A, J, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets t90, MP2 calls t90.

Turn: (t405) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t150, Hero raises to t300, MP2 calls t150.

River: (t1005) A (2 players)

I (Hero) raised 300 and villian folded (For some reason this didnt show up in converter)

Final Pot: t1005

Outcome: Hero wins t1005.

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Old 11-06-2006, 06:04 PM
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Posted as a river question, but advise for any street appreciated.
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Old 11-07-2006, 02:19 PM
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I dont like your pussy raise on the turn.
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:01 PM
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Generally bet more on each street, with a flop like that its very unlikely he didn't hit something. I take it he was probably drawing. Played as it is, I put him all in on the river, we're most likely only getting called by an ace and if he has it then you want him to pay the full price.
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:48 PM
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correctly played river w/ the line you take. I like betting flop and then checking turn. That is strait out of my bag of tricks. Obviously this guy had nothing. Any kind of A J or 8 would call that river.
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Old 11-07-2006, 05:48 PM
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I would definitely raise the turn more. There is a possibility he had 9T or a diamond draw in which case making him pay with cards to come is the only way to extract value. You also offered him good pot odds if he was on a draw.

If he has nothing you're probably not getting much more anyway.
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Old 11-07-2006, 06:19 PM
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Flop: bet is good; a check is possible too, since drawing hands are going to stay anyways unless we push all-in. I think both options should be about equally good.

Turn: Great card for us. All drawing hands missed, so we don't necessarily need a boat to win. I think we need to charge something for the river card now. Check-raise is good against aggressives and donkeys, against tight players betting out looks best. Check-Raise more though.

River: I might try another check-raise here, but a small value bet looks good too. Ax might raise you & you get all the money in.
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