Fire another bet on the river?

**OrionPro** · 11-06-2006

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 (t1320)
MP2 (t900)
Hero (t1770)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1900)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1650)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J

, J

.
UTG raises to t80, 3 folds, Hero calls t80, 4 folds.

Flop: (t190) 4

, 8

, 4

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t180, UTG calls t180.

Turn: (t550) 5

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t300, UTG calls t300.

River: (t1150) 8

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t1150

Results in white below:
UTG has Kh Ac (two pair, eights and fours).
Hero has Jh Jc (two pair, jacks and eights).
Outcome: Hero wins t1150.

**WeakTight** · 11-06-2006

Take the check down, only thing I think you might get called by that doesn't beat you is 1010, 99 or 67 all of which are very unlikely. That 8 is a gay card for you.

EDIT: Whoops 67 beats you.

**Mr.McJ** · 11-06-2006

He may have called a small bet but I like the check on the river. You bet and the villain comes over the top of you, what are you going to do? He may have called another $400 on the river but unless you're able to put him on EXACTLY AK then I don't think its worth the risk.

nh.

**WeakTight** · 11-06-2006

wow I think that me and Mr.McJ just posted at the exact same time, cause when I hit Submit Reply both our posts showed up.

**shalesey_boy** · 11-06-2006

I concur. Only think that's calling you on the river has you beat. Plus he could check raise you out with nothing if he's good.

**Pinguaq** · 11-06-2006

The reason I know betting that river would be the wrong thing to do, is because it is something I would have done a year ago. Everything I done in that period was wrong, so it makes an easy bench mark for me

It's also tough to put him on AK the way he called your flop & turn raise with nothing.

The tourney just started (t20 blind), you got 1/3 of his chips, no need to get fancy, just drag a pot and get on with the next hand.

**gder03** · 11-06-2006

LOL @ not betting river here

**the alex** · 11-06-2006

All that beats you would be a 67s, A8, 78, and 89 if you figure he's raising 4x preflop this light.

I'd bet 400 on the river for value. He'll call with Ace high, let alone 99, 77, and 66. People have called these river to me with KQ and KJ, too. I'm not gonna believe that he was this passive with a hand that beats you. It's rare enough for this bet to have value.

**Pinguaq** · 11-06-2006

Originally Posted by the alex

All that beats you would be a 67s, A8, 78, and 89 if you figure he's raising 4x preflop this light.

I'd bet 400 on the river for value. He'll call with Ace high, let alone 99, 77, and 66. People have called these river to me with KQ and KJ, too. I'm not gonna believe that he was this passive with a hand that beats you. It's rare enough for this bet to have value.

I agree in principle, especially if we know we were up against solid players. However, with with online play, and the tourney just starting the players are so unpredictable. I see people raise PF with any garbage, and slow play a lucky flop as your raising into him. After he checked on the river, and 1/3 of his chips are in, I'm happy to get to the next hand after not approving my PP.

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