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    Default Analyze the hand that killed me

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    Blinds: t600/t1200
    (Ante: t75)
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    Stack sizes:
    Loz0209: t18775
    UTG+1: t10550
    MP1: t23726
    MP2: t37768
    MP3: t36216
    CO: t1770
    Button: t7434
    SB: t9832
    BB: t12236

    Pre-flop: (9 players) Loz0209 is UTG with
    Loz0209 calls t1200 (pot was t2475), UTG+1 calls t1200 (pot was t3675), 2 folds, MP3 raises to t4800, 4 folds, Loz0209 calls t3600 (pot was t9675), UTG+1 folds.

    Flop: (t13275, 2 players)
    Loz0209 checks, MP3 bets t6000, Loz0209 raises all-in t13900, MP3 calls t7900 (pot was t33175).

    Turn: (t41075, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t41075)


    River: (t41075, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t41075)


    Results:
    Final pot: t41075
    MP3 showed Kd Ac
    Loz0209 showed Jd Qd
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    You fucked up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRE8R View Post
    You fucked up.
    His raise was perfect. When he didn't push I put him on a lower pair. JJ, TT. Then when he called I knew it ws a trap of course. I was at a few tables with him and he was playing in the way I described. He wasn't setting traps. Right read at the wrong time.
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    I would not have called the preflop raise I dont think. Seems like your push was a bit much as well with second pair. I dont know. I guess if you had seen him play a certain way...
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    Is this the type of hand where you just don't believe that the other person has what is shown?

    I have real problems with that.....donking off chips especially to LAG types. It happens to me more when I have been card dead for a while and I lose patience.

    I think that because I have acknowledged my deficiency I am actually getting better in respecting other players hands...........annoying when they show their cards and they have nothing of course.........next thing I will work on.
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    In retrospect it was a horrible push. Not because I lost, but I should of believed the aces. Better to fold the winner than call the loser.
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    The more I look at it, the 6k bet was for action. All in would of been the bluff. I will win this 180 SNG. Mark my words.
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    I'd have folded or raised pre flop Loz. You have 3 big stacks behind you. They are gonna raise a limper if they pick up any 2 face cards or a pair. When you limped you put yourself in a position where if they raised, you had a tough decision. I personally would have folded this pre flop.

    You chose to play this and you needed to compensate for being out of position by putting in a raise. Limping in this spot either means you have a monstor or a marginal hand. He raised with AK to define his hand. Once he did so and you called, he had information on your hand and you have none on his. This puts you in a tough spot. You are out of position for the rest of the hand and your opponent has more info than you.

    I would have trapped you with a probe bet on that flop too.

    Raise or fold. Fold to the raise after the limp imo.
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    Flop was played perfectly I think. If you're puttin 25% of your stack in preflop you have to gamble if you catch a piece of it.

    UTG with M of 10 you shouldn't be limping with anything unles it is to reraise all in.

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    I typed up 7-8 points on how bad this hand was played and how it disrupts so many fundamentals of tournament poker and PFO logged me out as I submitted the reply. I'm on forum tilt now. I'll come back to this tomorrow.

    Fuckin' internet.
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