PFO tournament, Shalesey, Genius or moron? You decide!

**shalesey_boy** · 10-22-2006

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG (t2525)
MP1 (t1920)
MP2 (t1667)
CO (t7746)
Button (t1410)
SB (t1952)
Hero (t3780)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, 7

.
UTG calls t100, MP1 calls t100, 4 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (t350) J

, Q

, 3

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets t250, MP1 raises to t700, Hero raises to t3680, UTG calls t2175 (All-In), MP1 calls t1120 (All-In).

Turn: (t8275) 3

(3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t8275) 9

(3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t8275

Results in white below:
Hero has JavaScript 7s (flush, queen high).
UTG has Ad Ac (two pair, aces and threes).
MP1 has Qh Jc (two pair, queens and jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins t8275.

**Beavis68** · 10-22-2006

a pair and a flush draw, looks fine. who is the brain surgeon that limped with AA?

**sk8freak_21** · 10-22-2006

couragous move but it worked for u...nh

**HSM** · 10-22-2006

I was MP1....

I still stand by my original view that its a horrible play. He has middle pair with a shitty kicker and the 4th best flush draw. I may be playing too tight for my own good because i never push here with a bet and a significant raise infront of me.

But meh....i know nothing, im just pissed cos i was playing solid and got lucked out on.

**WotaWaster** · 10-22-2006

In Shaleseys defence..........

Using PokerStove he had 34% chance to win the hand in this scenario, and even if one of them has flopped trips he would have had 30% equity. This means if you know you are getting 2 calls by overpair/2pair/trips type hands it is pretty much a zero expectation play in terms of chips.

Add to this he must have a large amount of fold equity over the original better (who he covers by 1255 chips), and a lesser amount over the 2nd player (who he covers by 1860 chips).

The absolute worst case scenario if he loses the hand is he is left with 1255 chips (12BB), it is probably more likely he will be left with 1860 (18BB). Neither of these situations remove him from having a chance of winning the tournament.

Plus he gains the huge equity of knocking 1 or 2 players out the tournament.

All in all I think this was a very +EV play.

Easy Push.

**OrionPro** · 10-22-2006

I think the aces belong in the muck here. The first raise could be TPTK but the second is either tp/trips or a monster draw. I dont mind the UTG limp as much as Beav, it pays off big time if there's a raise. I onced raised the bullets UTG and got no action (had them 3 times in this PFO tourney lol)

Imo MP1's play is best. Since he has two pair, he is somewhat less afraid of trips, and probably puts the other 2 on drawing hands, overpair or TPTK.

**gder03** · 10-22-2006

standard play.

**obga** · 10-22-2006

shalsely played like crap when i played with him, lag player, along with pacesetter, the 2 hands i lost were the 2 hands that shouldnt of been played in the first place, 5 7 off suit and 56 suited with a raise. good play boys

**SeanyBullets1** · 10-22-2006

I like it. NH.

**Beavis68** · 10-22-2006

you shouldnt be limping with anything at this phase really.

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