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I started the hand with 14k and the villan had 18k

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t75/t150
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t8555
UTG+1: t18210
MP1: t16100
Hero: t14330
MP3: t12485
CO: t4110
Button: t18070
SB: t6030
BB: t12370

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with
3 folds, Hero raises to t600, MP3 folds, CO calls t600 (pot was t825), Button raises to t2550, 2 folds, Hero calls t1950 (pot was t3975), CO folds.

Flop: (t5925, 2 players)
Hero bets t2850, Button calls t2850 (pot was t8775).

Turn: (t11625, 2 players)
Hero is all-in t8930, Button calls t8930 (pot was t20555).

River: (t29485, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t29485)


Results:
Final pot: t29485
Hero showed Kd Ad


Anyone play this diff? I had only been at the table for a few rounds, so little reads. I had just been caught bluffin the previous hand, and the villan seemed solid enough.

Edit- converter can blow me.

Could use a little more information like Blind levels, chip stacks, amount of raises, etc.

I would've folded preflop to the re-raise, personally.

Originally Posted by the alex

I would've folded preflop to the re-raise, personally.

I felt like thats mabye what I should have done. Whats the reasoning behind folding this?

Originally Posted by Fishodeath

I felt like thats mabye what I should have done. Whats the reasoning behind folding this?

'Cause you're probably up against a pair and no way you're seeing a free turn, so you'll NEED to flop a pair.

So is limp-call a better line for AK when your deepstacked and dont feel like racing for chips?

Id be all in PF with this re raise. I would do this to get it HU between me and the raiser. you call, therfore this may be 3 way. Folding is the last play I would make.

Originally Posted by gder03

Id be all in PF with this re raise. I would do this to get it HU between me and the raiser. you call, therfore this may be 3 way. Folding is the last play I would make.

That's the other option, but I hate playing big pots in tournaments before the flop when I like my stack.

I think everyone can agree that calling was the worst move, in this case. You're OOP with Ace high. AK works seeing 5 cards or no cards.

Originally Posted by Fishodeath

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with
3 folds, Hero raises to t600, MP3 folds, CO calls t600 (pot was t825), Button raises to t2550, 2 folds, Hero calls t1950 (pot was t3975), CO folds.

Flop: (t5925, 2 players)
Hero bets t2850, Button calls t2850 (pot was t8775).

Depends is probably the most used word in poker analysis -

Not knowing more about the villian or the betting standards (i.e the established norms of bets and raises) of the table at the time it's a hard read but preflop our hero comes in for 4xbb which is pretty standard in most tournements but the Button re-raises 4x the raise which seems too high for a strong hand that's looking for action. A 'normal' re-raise from the three hands I first think of (AA, KK or AK) would be 3x the raise so 4x the raise looks like QQ or even JJ prefering a fold but not too worried about a call if the board comes up without an A or K. Add to this our hero was just caught bluffing so a (seemingly) larger than usual re-raise may be designed to punish a LAA with a message that "it's going to cost ya to play bluffs/garbage at this table!".
So if a seemingly solid player makes a 4x raise re-raise and this were a 'normal' sized re-raise, I'd tend to think I'm beat by at least 2 hands and tied with a third but if the raise is suspected to be higher than norm I'd figure I have a race situation at worse but possibly a +EV situation if the villian is sending a message. According to Sklanski this is a marginal call and an easy fold. Who am I to argue with Sklanski or Alex? And like Alex I dislike large pot confrontations preflop so early in a tourney although later when the blinds are high and table is shorter I would likely be all-in with this strong a hand.

Post flop - I would have played differently. Since the Button re-raised preflop, it's not unusual (an preferable with this flop) to check into the pf raiser and let him take the lead. Preferable for 3 reasons:
1. The Button had bought the preflop aggressor role with his re-raise - give him that respect and expect him to continue being aggressive - C-bet.
2. I'm out of position so checking an ace on the board is neutral and since I plan to ck-raise, I have gained position on him by letting him take the lead. Only glich would be if he doesn't bet, suspecting you of trapping an Ace or is trapping his own ace(s) himself then leadout on the turn would be called for.
3. If my ck-raise is called or re-raised - I'm pretty sure I'm beat or we're splitting the pot!

I don't like the lead out bet by our hero. If villian were playing KK, JJ, TT he's got an reluctant but easy fold - what else but an Ace-hi hand could call such a large preflop re-raise??
With AA, QQ or even AQ (if he was just trying to buy a pot from a bluffing LAA) he's going to let him trap himself.
With a ck-raise I have a chance to win with the best hand on the flop or fold a 2nd best hand to a re-raise with my stack wounded but still intact. I really don't want this to go to the turn or sd but if he calls, I figure it's probably a split pot or he's really getting trappy so I checking it down if possible. With a ck-raise/call (show some weakness but not enough to fold) I have to figure villian is no more willing to go broke than I would be so may go for a ck-down. If bets out aggressively on the turn I'd have to re-evaluate and quite possibly let it go!

A major concern I have with the ck-raise however would be the size of villian's flop bet since a meaningful ck-raise may pot commit hero's stack or badly cribble him but on the positive side, it would also seriously wound the villian even if he folds to a re-raise! With a pot about 6000 a C-bet of 3000+ would be expectd so a re-raise would have to be about 7500+ leaving only 4K in hero's stack. If I were villian and saw that hero kept back less than he re-raised I would wonder why he just didn't go all-in! Maybe the hero isn't as strong as he represents?