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  1. #1
    Stu Ungar triple-t's Avatar
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    Default Reasonable assumption or donkey play? (Long)

    First, a little history. Pokerstars finally turned off the doom switch. We are down to the final 7 (7 get paid)

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB (t23777)
    BB (t6885)
    UTG (t4790)
    MP1 (t8110)
    MP2 (t13816)
    Hero (t2792)
    Button (t7330)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 8.
    3 folds, Hero raises to t2792, 3 folds.

    Final Pot: t3092

    Next hand:
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K.
    2 folds, Hero raises to t4292, 4 folds.

    Final Pot: t4592

    Next hand:
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, A.
    1 fold, Hero raises to t5792, 5 folds.

    Final Pot: t6092

    Next hand:
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q.
    Hero raises to t7292, 6 folds.

    Final Pot: t7592

    3 hands later:
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, Q.
    4 folds, Hero raises to t2445, 2 folds.

    Final Pot: t2745

    So, given my prior actions, I was just waiting for a sheriff. Then this hand came up.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t15992)
    SB (t9030)
    BB (t8330)
    UTG (t6510)
    MP1 (t12216)
    Hero (t9692)
    CO (t5730)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T, A.
    2 folds, Hero raises to t3384, CO raises to t5568, 3 folds, Hero raises to t7752, CO calls t87 (All-In).

    Flop: (t13782) 3, K, 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Turn: (t13782) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: (t13782) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: t13782

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Ts Ac (one pair, kings).
    CO has JavaScript Ah (one pair, kings).
    Outcome: CO wins t11685. Hero wins t2097.


    I thought before the final raise. I could be up against genuine strength, but most likely, I'm either against a smaller pp and am in a coin flip or CO is playing sheriff with somthing like KQs and I was a 60-40 favorite. There is a possibility that CO had A9 or KT that I have dominated. I also knew there was a possibility that I was dominated. I made the call because I convinced myself that CO was playing the sheriff. I think what got me was the min-raise leaving CO with 87 chips left. I thought it was a tell that CO wasn't paying much attention and did a min-raise like a lot of donkeys do with semi-strong hands. Was this a reasonable assumption, or was I just being a donk? Also, if I was just being a donk, what hands do I need to continue playing the hand?
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    You have to fold the AT here because of your very recent aggression and stacks behind you that can only push.
    Quote Originally Posted by FaDi View Post
    GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
    GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus

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    What would have been the minimum hand to play on? (Trying to work on my endgame and this is definitely my biggest leak.)

    EDIT: Duh, you meant fold instead of the initial raise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by triple-t
    What would have been the minimum hand to play on? (Trying to work on my endgame and this is definitely my biggest leak.)

    EDIT: Duh, you meant fold instead of the initial raise.
    You've just widened everyone's calling raise and adjusting to that is the leak.
    Quote Originally Posted by FaDi View Post
    GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
    GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus

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