MP was pretty tight. I haven't seen any of his cards. I've seen him push once with 1k and everyone folded with the blinds at 75/150.

UTG was limping and folding the whole time. No question about my fold% on him.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB (t4415)
UTG (t3130)
MP (t1055)
Button (t3170)
Hero (t1730)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5, 5.
UTG calls t200, MP calls t200, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1730, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP calls t855 (All-In).

Just complete for set value. Since everybody is short-stacked esp MP1) this push doesn't make any sense. In the worst case he has something like 66 and you're a huge dog

Really, just complete? Hm. I'm so new at turbos that I actually never complete or limp with 10bbs> in my stack.

I should add that BB was a total tighty-pants, too and I haven't messed with him yet.

MP has to call that's for sure. He'll be crippled if he doesn't and he's getting ok odds. Also occassionally UTG might be trapping or BB has a big hand.

The question is: Would you call if MP had pushed already? If no then I think the push is no good either

I have not played many tournaments, but I read HoH II in one setting last night and i have played all of my tournaments while talking through hands with you alex. Here's my line - you have to push here.

Here's why:

1. Your M is less than 6. You can't really wait around for a better hand.
2. Your not going to double up, BUT you have MP1 covered. If he does flip over a monster, you might be able to get back into things with a little bit of luck.
3. You are in a bad spot anyway. Even if you take all of MP's money, you are still the shortstack. Pushing against any other stack I think is going to be detrimental. They can afford to sit around and wait for a good sized hand.
4. You can't complete. Your M is WAY too low. You can't afford to complete and and have all over cards flop (which is very possible), face a CB and get pushed off dropping your M even lower.
5. MP1 is even more shortstacked than you are and in an even worse spot. The blinds are coming around again to him quickly. He will be down to around t700 afterwards. I feel like he is pushing to get a free round. He's been tight, so he may expoloiting his image.

All in all. You need chips. 5's may be your best shot. It's doubtful you are a 4-1 leader, best sit. you have a coinflip.


I could be completely wrong.

I ran it through SNGPT assuming MP had already pushed and ignoring UTG. Then it's a good call, since we have to put MP on a wide range of limping hands. Then again his limping behind doesn't make any sense, so it's not impossible he has aces or kings and is scared of not getting enough chips in case he pushes.

So I was probably wrong, but I still think that folding or completing is ok too

Originally Posted by DaFish

MP has to call that's for sure. He'll be crippled if he doesn't and he's getting ok odds. Also occassionally UTG might be trapping or BB has a big hand.

The question is: Would you call if MP had pushed already? If no then I think the push is no good either

No. I wouldn't have called his push. Don't think I'd re-push either.