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Thread: Stud H/L

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    Default Stud H/L

    I wish I knew enough about Stud to know if this is a bad beat, bad play, or standard. So I'll post it here and take a look. Big props to Triple-T for the converter!!

    First hand (final 3 of SnG):
    PokerStars Stud HandHistory converter by triple-t
    PokerStars Game #6090617110: Tournament #30861200, $3.00+$0.40 HORSE (7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit) - Level X (400/800) - 2006/08/28 - 23:55:04 (ET)
    Table '30861200 1' 8-max

    Seat 2: S2 (6970 in chips)
    Seat 7: S7 (1896 in chips)
    Seat 8: Hero (3134 in chips)
    <<< 3rd Street (3 players) >>>

    Dealt to S2
    Dealt to S7
    Dealt to Hero
    S7: brings-in low 120, Hero: calls 120, S2: folds
    <<< 4th Street (2 players) >>>

    Dealt to S7
    Dealt to Hero
    S7: checks , Hero: bets 400, S7: calls 400
    <<< 5th Street (2 players) >>>

    Dealt to S7
    Dealt to Hero
    S7: checks , Hero: bets 800, S7: calls 800
    <<< 6th Street (2 players) >>>

    Dealt to S7
    Dealt to Hero
    S7: checks , Hero: bets 800, S7: calls 496 and is all-in
    <<< River (2 players) >>>

    Dealt to Hero

    Results in white below
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    S7: shows [7c 6s 2c Qc 8s JavaScript 8h] (HI: a pair of Eights)
    Hero: shows [3c 4s 5d 3d 7s 9s Qh] (HI: a pair of Threes)
    S7 collected 3872 from pot
    No low hand qualified
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    Second hand. Same villain.

    PokerStars Stud HandHistory converter by triple-t
    PokerStars Game #6090661564: Tournament #30861200, $3.00+$0.40 HORSE (7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit) - Level X (400/800) - 2006/08/28 - 23:58:38 (ET)
    Table '30861200 1' 8-max

    Seat 2: S2 (5852 in chips)
    Seat 7: S7 (4192 in chips)
    Seat 8: Hero (1956 in chips)
    <<< 3rd Street (3 players) >>>

    Dealt to S2
    Dealt to S7
    Dealt to Hero
    S7: brings-in low 120, Hero: calls 120, S2: folds
    <<< 4th Street (2 players) >>>

    Dealt to S7
    Dealt to Hero
    Hero: checks , S7: checks
    <<< 5th Street (2 players) >>>

    Dealt to S7
    Dealt to Hero
    S7: bets 800, Hero: raises 800 to 1600, S7: calls 800
    <<< 6th Street (2 players) >>>

    Dealt to S7
    Dealt to Hero
    Hero: bets 156 and is all-in, S7: calls 156
    <<< River (2 players) >>>

    Dealt to Hero

    Results in white below
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    S7: shows [6h 4d 3h Ad 3s 6s 5s] (HI: two pair, Sixes and Threes; LO: 6,5,4,3,A)
    Hero: shows [4h 5d Ac Ts 2d Td Kh] (HI: a pair of Tens)
    S7 collected 1996 from pot
    S7 collected 1996 from pot
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    Other than raising both hands on 3, I would have played them the exact same way. You are 3 handed and normally aggression wins. You just got unlucky catching two bad cards on the end of each hand while he was catching perfect cards on his.
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    1st hand
    Raise 3rd and I think you end it there. Never slowplay 3rd or 4th in a Stud game. EDIT: AHHHHHH! He had the bring in?!!!!

    2nd hand:
    In a tourney setting... with 2.5 bets... Stud8...

    I see A45, I'm raising the hell out of it. In hindsight, it's weird that S7 didn't complete because we know what he had, but you have to complete and raise-raise-raise. No checking and no calling because he's betting and you're not folding.
    Last edited by the alex; 08-29-2006 at 02:22 AM.
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    OK, I just figured out the probabilities on the first hand going to the river:
    54% of the time I will win the entire pot.
    32% of the time we split
    13% of the time he wins the entire pot.

    I'm ruling that it was a bad beat.
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    Second hand:
    Going to the river he was a favorite:
    38% he wins
    32% I win
    30% we split

    I was unlucky, but I can't blame him for staying in the hand. Big money went in the pot on 5th street (noone's folding after that). He had lo draw of A,3,4,6 and a pair. I had better low draw of A,2,4,5.
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    The first was definitely a bad beat, but with only 1900 in chips, I don't think he's fighting for half the antes and bring in with 3 to a lo if you complete 3rd St. Second hand, I think you're showing down and he isn't going anywhere. I still test the waters by completing 3rd St. You could've gotten away on 5th- especially with the dead 3's. I'm curious as to why he didn't bet 4th.
    Last edited by the alex; 08-29-2006 at 03:26 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by FaDi View Post
    GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
    GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus

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