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    Stu Ungar obga's Avatar
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    Default over played?

    its hands like this that still flaw my play, put him on ace king ace queen,99-1010, he reraises with rockets and kings or does he?


    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    SB (t4260)
    BB (t4314)
    UTG (t3005)
    Hero (t8363)
    MP1 (t8629)
    MP2 (t1290)
    MP3 (t5443)
    CO (t17674)
    Button (t3920)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, J.
    1 fold, Hero raises to t650, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t1290, 1 fold, CO calls t1290, 3 folds, Hero calls t640.

    Flop: (t4170) 5, 2, 3 (3 players)
    Hero bets t3500, CO calls t3500.

    Turn: (t11170) 8 (3 players)
    Hero bets t3573 (All-In), CO calls t3573.

    River: (t18316) Q (3 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: t18316
    Main Pot: t18316 (t18316), between Hero and CO. > Pot won by CO (t18316).

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Jc Jh (one pair, jacks).
    MP2 has Kd Qs (one pair, queens).
    CO has Qd Qh (three of a kind, queens).
    Outcome: CO wins t18316.
    Last edited by obga; 08-22-2006 at 08:25 PM.

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    (23:14:33) ThenAlexWasLike:: i guess i'd play for set value, but that's it
    (23:14:56) ThenAlexWasLike:: 640 to win about 10k is really good
    (23:15:02) OldBillyGoatAss: no shit
    (23:15:08) OldBillyGoatAss: then that flop hit
    (23:15:10) OldBillyGoatAss: i thought i was good
    (23:15:27) ThenAlexWasLike:: if i have to make a big laydown on the flop, ur still in good shape
    (23:15:56) ThenAlexWasLike:: CO played this pretty well, actually
    (23:16:05) OldBillyGoatAss: probably why hes the chip leader
    (23:16:07) OldBillyGoatAss: haha
    (23:16:18) ThenAlexWasLike:: i'd check the flop
    (23:16:31) ThenAlexWasLike:: don't think he'll bet the dry side pot here
    (23:16:49) OldBillyGoatAss: think hed check it down with me?
    (23:16:57) ThenAlexWasLike:: that'd be smart
    (23:17:24) ThenAlexWasLike:: worse case scenario. he bets out. u fold
    (23:17:41) ThenAlexWasLike:: and feel like an idiot when u see ur against AJ and 44
    (23:17:47) ThenAlexWasLike:: but u still have 7k
    (23:18:31) ThenAlexWasLike:: if he wants to bet a dry side pot, he'll give u a lot of chances to double up by being stupid
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    well... Alex is right, but CO is a dam idiot!!!!!

    That said, never bet in a dry side pot without at least 2 pairs or very god indication that the pluer all in is beaten.

    Edit: Oh god... forget it CO is pretty smart... he is the dude with QQ!

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    Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!

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    i seem to be an over analyzer of hands , which makes me my own worst enemy after i get beat

    woudl the gap concept come into play here

    do i call the reraise from someone in lp-md? with this hand?


    after thinking about it. i dont think so, unless like alex said i play it for set value, either way im gonna see the co's hand, if we check down or he bets me out and i lay it down (the next time atleast)

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    hmm.... CO doesnt try to isolate pf which usally means strength. Im checking this down.
    "On a large enough time line, the survival rate of a Donk will drop to zero."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auto
    hmm.... CO doesnt try to isolate pf which usally means strength. Im checking this down.
    It could also mean a fish with any half-decent hand (AQo). But yes, this hand should be checked down esp with the other guy in the pot. Would be poor play to isolate the queens anyways! MP2 would now WIN the pot and stay alive!
    Last edited by OrionPro; 08-23-2006 at 03:10 PM.

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