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    Question Was it a stupid call?

    Mansion Poker. I got A 10 in the hole. Im on the button. Big blind raises 3x the ante. I raise. BB calls. Flop is 6,8,10. Big Blind goes all in. I call. He had pocket kings. My ace never came up. I was 54th out of 1250.

    Should I of folded?

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    In hindsight I will answer my own question. If it was pre flop it wasnt a great move to call all in, but not a horrid one. However what I did essentially was put my entire stack to risk on 10s. If I folded and he was only holding 6s, oh well. However holding kings my tournament is over. Lesson learned.

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    1.) Stack sizes?

    2.) Blind levels?

    3.) Any reads on this guy's prior play?

    4.) Did you limp/re-raise? I don't know the stacks, but eitehr way, that's bad with AT. I'll expand on my opinion there when I know the stacks/blinds.

    5.) Were there other limpers or was it folded to you?

    6.) I don't get cute on the button. It's too predictable.
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    1.) Stack sizes? - Me about 41k, him 36k

    2.) Blind levels? - 600/1200

    3.) Any reads on this guy's prior play? - Just moved to that table.

    4.) Did you limp/re-raise? I don't know the stacks, but eitehr way, that's bad with AT. I'll expand on my opinion there when I know the stacks/blinds. - Didn't limp. Re-raised the raise from BB

    5.) Were there other limpers or was it folded to you? - Yes, it was heads up.

    6.) I don't get cute on the button. It's too predictable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loz
    3.) Any reads on this guy's prior play? - Just moved to that table.

    Yes, it was heads up.
    So, your dealt KK on the button. It folds to you.

    I still don't know what you raised or what you were re-raised to, but I'll guess that you raised to 3600. This is a steal raise with the intention to steal on the flop and some outs if you're beat. Your hand was too weak to call the re-raise. I wouldn't have called the min. re-raise with AT, let alone something bigger.

    You did and flopped TPTK and the aggressor moved all in. Calling this or not depends on the pot-size, but if the pot was bigger enough where you had to call, that means that you REALLY fucked this up before the flop because the pot should not be that big when you see a flop with AT. Bad hand to go broke on. There's a huge difference between going out with a big push where you have fold equity. Calling all in here when one pair that you need the board to make that only a 10 is a bit donkish. But you might've trapped yourself before the flop and if you did, there's the biggest fuckup. I still say make the steal raise, fine, but laydown to a re-raise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the alex
    So, your dealt KK on the button. It folds to you.

    I still don't know what you raised or what you were re-raised to, but I'll guess that you raised to 3600. This is a steal raise with the intention to steal on the flop and some outs if you're beat. Your hand was too weak to call the re-raise. I wouldn't have called the min. re-raise with AT, let alone something bigger.

    You did and flopped TPTK and the aggressor moved all in. Calling this or not depends on the pot-size, but if the pot was bigger enough where you had to call, that means that you REALLY fucked this up before the flop because the pot should not be that big when you see a flop with AT. Bad hand to go broke on. There's a huge difference between going out with a big push where you have fold equity. Calling all in here when one pair that you need the board to make that only a 10 is a bit donkish. But you might've trapped yourself before the flop and if you did, there's the biggest fuckup. I still say make the steal raise, fine, but laydown to a re-raise.
    My thoughts exactly afterwards.

    I didnt have KK on the button. BB had KK, I was on the button and had A10.

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