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    Poker Hustler Gryff's Avatar
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    Default Interesting decision with AKs

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) CP hand converter

    SB (t735)
    Hero (t3550)
    UTG (t895)
    MP (t4190)
    Button (t4130)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
    UTG raises to t895, 1 fold, Button calls t895, 1 fold,

    This was an interesting decision and I think I made the wrong move, I think the most important detail in the hand is the small blinds stack size and action.

    Thoughts?

    ( I'll post results and my own analysis this evening ).
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    I don't quite understand what your asking here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gryff
    I think the most important detail in the hand is the small blinds stack size and action.
    Do you mean the Buttons stack size and action?

    UTG Raises all-in, MP folds, Button Calls, SB Folds, you call???? and we see a flop. Right?


    If you do mean the SB action, it's an obvious fold if he has naf cards as it's for all his chips and he's now seen the blinds so has a couple of hands to pick a better spot to go all-in on his terms.
    Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

    :kh :jd

    Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

    Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

    he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

    River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:




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    Poker Hustler Gryff's Avatar
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    No, I mean the small blind - I think thats where the critical piece of information in the hand is that changes what my decision should be.

    The question is:

    Whats your move in my position with the AKs?
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    What you talking about Willis?

    I have no idea what you are talking about or what has happened for that matter. Has the SB already folded? Or is he/she about to make his decision?

    If he has folded (and I am assuming he/she has) then why is it a vital piece of information in the hand. It just means that with his short stack he decided to wait for a better time to stick it all in.

    SB is probably waiting to push his stack rather than call a raise. Only information you can gather is that he didn't have a strong enough hand to call.

    Please, please, please, tell me you either:

    1 called to see what haoppens on the flop

    or

    2 pushed to put the Button to a decision for 4/5 of his stack

    I would have gone for option number 2 but then again I am not one of the better players on here so interested to hear what others would do?

    PS. Didn't put fold as an option because surely that is not really an option?

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    Flat call and see a flop. Without any kind of read I'm guessing the button has a small to medium pair and will be happy to check it down with you (unless he hits his set.)

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    I make the call no matter what the small blind does. For me the only risk in this hand is the Button calling as he has you covered. I'm looking to see a flop here which you can do for the 895 (745 more) no matter what SB does. If you hit then good, otherwise let it go and hope the button takes out the other guy(s)

    Luked, I like the aggressive push but I wouldn't risk it. The BB has already shown some interest in his hand so why try and push him off it with a drawing hand.

    If he beats you but one of the all-ins beats him then you go out just prior to the payout. Not ideal!

    Just make the call and then see how it plays out post flop.
    Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

    :kh :jd

    Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

    Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

    he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

    River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:




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    i call and see a flop.

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    Push- it's the only significant raise you can make

    Unless the other big stack is guaranteed to be cooperative, then I would consider calling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryff
    No, I mean the small blind - I think thats where the critical piece of information in the hand is that changes what my decision should be.
    I don't understand this statement... please explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaFish
    Push- it's the only significant raise you can make

    Unless the other big stack is guaranteed to be cooperative, then I would consider calling
    Why do you need to make a raise? Why not just see a flop and play it from there? The fact that the initial raiser bumped it up so much weeds out all the rubbish hands, now you need to hit to win.
    Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

    :kh :jd

    Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

    Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

    he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

    River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:




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