Help did I make the right call?

**Mattk970** · 07-23-2006

I cannot figure out if I made the right call, and ran into terrible luck, or I should have just laid it down. I was second to act pre-flop and I had pocket Jacks, I opened for the usual size raise. After much folding the play came around to the short stack who reraised all in. The play came back around to me, and I made the call. I only had a few more chips then the shortstack and knew that if I were to lose I would be crippled (about two times the big blind left)and soon out of the tournament. Unfourtantly, the short stack had pocket Aces. I lost the hand and on the next hand went all in and lost. Should I have folded or did I make the right call against a desperate short stack and just run into bad luck? Please help me, been bugging me for days.

**Fools-Gold** · 07-23-2006

what was his stack size and current blind level?

**tightagressive** · 07-23-2006

this is the worst thread ever.

summary: "i called an all in with jacks and lost. good play?"

we need to know:

stack sizes
blinds
players left
structure (ring? tournament?)
prize structure

etc etc etc etc, tell us everything

**Mattk970** · 07-24-2006

It was a tournament with a one hundred dollar buyin. It was a sit and go with Eight people still sitting at the table. The blinds were at $1/$2. He had about $60 left where as i had about $64. It was a virtual all in for me. The prizes went to first and second $600 to first $200 to second. No one was an overwhelming chip leader, however the two of us were by far the two short stacks at the table. Anything else you need to know?

**OrionPro** · 07-24-2006

Originally Posted by Mattk970

It was a tournament with a one hundred dollar buyin. It was a sit and go with Eight people still sitting at the table. The blinds were at $1/$2

???

**Mattk970** · 07-24-2006

whats the problem? A one table tournament with the blinds at $1/$2 with eight people including myself at the table

**Marm** · 07-24-2006

You made it, lets say $6? Then a guy overbets the pot 10x. The fact was that he wasn't that short of a stack (30 bets vs your 32 bets).

Lets look at the math here. Assuming he's a decnet enough player, he's usually only goign to do this with QQ+ (yes jacks, but the odds of him having jacks too are enough to ingore) and AK. 3 of them were a 4-1 dog, and the other were a 'coinflip'. I'm not going to do the math, but consider the best case scenario we're break even.......

If he has been doing this regularly, then thats a different story.

But given the fact your M would be <2 if you lose in an -EV spot, this is an easy easy fold for me.

**Auto** · 07-24-2006

It was way too early to risk your life on pocket Jacks preflop (under the circumstances you described), easy fold.

You had 32x BB, with 8 players at the table.... it would take 250+ hands before you blind out (of course this is not totally true, since the blinds will raise... but still there was no rush).

**Jason75** · 07-24-2006

I'd fold anything other than AA here. Imagine you go to the WSOP, first hand, you raise your KK to 100 chips (10,000 starting stack), and some joker pushes the rest of his stack in.

It's time to say, fuck the tiny fraction of my chipstack out there, what hand other than AA would he do that with? If he does it again, then perhaps the fold was incorrect, but now you know and can take advantage . . .

Folding your JJ is very clear given the huge overbet and the very large remaining stacks.

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