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07-09-2006, 06:59 PM
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Mike McDermott
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MTT hand #2
10th hand of a 500 person MTT. 1500 starting chips, however, we doubled up the 1st hand via TPTK against a donk, and won a small pot since.
so we have about 3500, villian won a pot, has 2500
blinds are 15/30
we have 
in the BB
there are 3 limpers to the villian in the CO who raises to 100 (standard i guess?)
folds to us in the BB, still with 3 limpers behind. if we cold call here we are probably going 5 handed to the flop, OOP with queens. we raise.
So we raise to 500. limpers fold, villian instashoves for around t2000 more
he was basically unknown to me, i saw him play one hand in which he flopped a set and check raised a big ammount. i had no idea if he was a rock, or donk.
is it worth calling?
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07-09-2006, 07:07 PM
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Buy-in?
Personally Id re-raise all-in.
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07-09-2006, 07:36 PM
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I'm gueesing this is a $5.50 or $11
I like your play here with the re-raise, but you'll accomplish getting the info you want and chase people out with a re-raise to t300. Petty, but I'm always looking for the cheapest way to protect only knowing 28.6% of my hand this early. Your t500 is a good, healthy raise that you can get away from and still make a statement.
I say, dump it. If he'll do this with a hand that can't beat Queens or with AK, you'll bust when he overplays top pair to your 2 pair, set, or better. The guy's looking to play big pots. He's in a rush to build his stack in giant swoops. Make a note that he'll GIVE you the gift when you need it.
Keep playing your game. This is a hand that won't make you, but it can very well break you.
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07-09-2006, 07:36 PM
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Mike McDermott
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$20+2
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07-09-2006, 07:44 PM
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500 ppl is just the right amount of juicy for $22. That's pretty sweet.
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Originally Posted by FaDi
GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus
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07-09-2006, 08:56 PM
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Mike McDermott
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Originally Posted by the alex
500 ppl is just the right amount of juicy for $22. That's pretty sweet.
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yeah pokerstars owns for tournaments
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07-09-2006, 09:49 PM
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Personally, I think that re-raise of 500 is toomuch.
Im making it 300...and if he goes over the top...its gonna be hard,
but i fold.
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07-09-2006, 10:17 PM
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That really look like a hand I played a few days ago and posted here...
Despite the fact i decided to call I have to admit it was a mistake. Fold it! You still have plenty of chips to play poker, and if he's on stupid bluff, you'll catch him later...
KJ
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Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!
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07-10-2006, 12:28 AM
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Not a fan of the big reraise here . . . M of 77, have already doubled up and won a nice stack . . . . what's the point of making such a big raise?
The big raise is going to scare away action from AT/AJ/KQ/88-99 that raised because they didn't want to play against limpers, and AQ/AK/TT+ is going to likely reraise all in this early . . . .
Early with a big lead and a huge M, this is a call (I'm not worried about position here because the pot is so small). . . once villian pushes to our raise, we need to muck.
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07-10-2006, 12:59 AM
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Not a fan of the big reraise here . . . M of 77, have already doubled up and won a nice stack . . . . what's the point of making such a big raise?
The big raise is going to scare away action from AT/AJ/KQ/88-99 that raised because they didn't want to play against limpers, and AQ/AK/TT+ is going to likely reraise all in this early . . . .
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This is why I'm not averse to playing this hand like deuces in a multiway at all. The blinds aren't much to wanna stay knuckle tap the rearview and say, "Get off my ass!" to prevent future blind stealing and 80% of the time, you have position on the guy. This depends on how you can treat a T hi flop, though.
I'm still re-raising to t313 to isolate or figure out if I'm driving into a culdesac. I think TA was re-raising large to take the useless t160. This guy doesn't slowplay. He's pretty straight-forward from the little we know. I'll bet the prior CR was where he was in EP multiway or it was a harmless flop. This guy seems straightforward.
I've played these situations both ways. Calling is a "toothpick for the lumberyard" move where everyone's playing anything to win an early big pot can be very beneficial 20% of the time which ain't that bad because people will be doing this for another hour.
Aggression makes a good statement in the blinds and can lower the chances of people stealing your blinds, and more importantly your button looking more to trap you or save money to see flops giving you a lot of cheap flops when you're in position. The big risk is when you get popped like you did. Most of the time, I'd trust my flop/turn/river play heads up if I'm you. I have confidence in those abilities in you and you're not gonna get trapped, IMO. He's gonna be obvious with you if he calls.
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Originally Posted by FaDi
GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus
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