Hand #167010739 at table: $2500 Guaranteed
Started: Mon Jan 02 17:27:13 2006

ebru20 is at seat 1 with 1040.00
Xxjoekiddx is at seat 2 with 2155.00
Krokoman is at seat 3 with 840.00
zeroukij is at seat 4 with 1425.00
surferiop is at seat 5 with 1330.00
WSchmidt is at seat 6 with 2550.00
kroltoj is at seat 7 with 2155.00
O.Viki is at seat 8 with 2145.00
deity13 is at seat 9 with 1105.00
doncollion is at seat 10 with 790.00

doncollion posts the large blind 50.00
deity13 posts the small blind 25.00

deity13: --, --
doncollion: --, --
ebru20: --, --
Xxjoekiddx: --, --
Krokoman: --, --
zeroukij: --, --
surferiop: Kc, Kh
WSchmidt: --, --
kroltoj: --, --
O.Viki: --, --

Pre-flop:

ebru20: Fold
Xxjoekiddx: Call 50.00
Krokoman: Call 50.00
zeroukij: Fold
surferiop: Raise 150.00
WSchmidt: Fold
kroltoj: Fold
O.Viki: Call 150.00
deity13: Call 150.00
doncollion: Fold
Xxjoekiddx: Call 150.00
Krokoman: Call 150.00

Flop (Board: Qs, 2c, 8h):

deity13: Check
Xxjoekiddx: Check
Krokoman: Check
surferiop: Bet 300.00
O.Viki: Call 300.00
deity13: All in
Xxjoekiddx: Fold
Krokoman: Fold
surferiop: All in
O.Viki: Call 1180.00

Showdown:

surferiop shows: Kc, Kh (a pair of Kings)
O.Viki shows: 10c, Qc (a pair of Queens)
deity13 shows: 10s, Jc (high card, Queen)

Turn (Board: Qs, 2c, 8h, Qh):


River (Board: Qs, 2c, 8h, Qh, 7s):

O.Viki shows: 10c, Qc (three of a kind, Queens)

Sidepot 2:
O.Viki wins the pot of 400 with three of a kind, Queens


Mainpot:
O.Viki wins the pot of 3740 with three of a kind, Queens


Should i have raised more preflop? thats only thing i see that i could/should have done.

Yes, 350 PF, and then 3/4 pot on the flop... you way underbet each street.

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so i should have raised 7x BB PF isnt that alittle steep?

3x is ok for an opening raise, but you were not opening the pot. Two peope were already in the pot, there was 325 in after your raise, and they only had to call 125 more.

I would raise to somewhere between 200-300 with people already in the pot.

Then on the flop there is 750 in the pot and you bet 300?

You priced in calls, and you got calls.

i know that but dont i want some calls with prime hands ? I think i really misunderstood HoH. Seemed it said you wanted to raise less with AA and KK because you want callers.

dont confuse opening the pot with raising limpers.

3x is a fine openeing bet.

But you need to kick it up a bit when people are already in the pot.

that makes sense

The other thing is, if people WILL call more, make them.

re read HOH. this play pf is now way a part of HOH strat.

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Yeah i reread the PF part says with AA in middle (5th) and one limper to raise about 3-5 BB. Or Button with AA and 3 limpers to raise 4-5BB. So i guess i should have raised a little more than 3 BB. So i guess ill put in 200 or 250 next time.