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Old 12-29-2005, 09:47 PM
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Yesterday i was playing with some guys in a small $10 tourny... i had been playing well all day... not to lose not to aggressive... lost one big hand... one a big hand... pretty decent in chips... it comes down to four of us (three make money) and i am tied (exactly) for short stack. I am on the big blind... first action limps second raises 4x small blind folds, i look down and have AK suited... i reraise... the original raiser goes all in... i call and he has KQ off... Flop is good... turn in good... river he spikes the Q of clubs hiting one of his three outs... Man... i would have doubled up and been sitting pretty for heads up... Next time right?
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the amount of the raise vs. the chips held is what we need to know here. If he raised really big and you rereaised that's going to put him all in. He could have 72o and outdraw you.

If he made a tiny raise here then I could see reraising. Otherwise, just calling might be appropriate to see what the flop brings. You don't even have a made hand why reriase the short stack to put it all in? If this is the case you know he's not going to fold. AK suited is a slight underdog to just about any pocket pair, and only a slight favorite against suited connectors of another type. Just my opinion.

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the amount of the raise vs. the chips held is what we need to know here.
No we don't. This isn't pokerstrategy.
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bonch shut up with the derail. You've already been banned once for it. Almost every thread in this section ends up discussing strategy.

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Old 12-30-2005, 11:15 AM
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Just to provide the correct information the blinds were at 1.5 and 3 he raised to 12 i reraised to 24... he went all in 36 over the top of my 24. So he started with 60 in chips... with the blinds only being 5% of his stack he is not committed with my reraise. If he was bluffing... he would have mucked a 72off... a few hands prior he raised the same amount with KJ suited so i figured i was in pretty good shape. This time he was slightly better but not much so i had a pretty good read.
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ah, well I see what you mean now. Tough break. Seems like by the time you realize that you could be in trouble (even though the truth is you were a favorite) you're pretty much committed and being on the short stack as well you had to make the call.

Nevertheless he raised 4x BB I'd have probably called.

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mal :if he wanted strategy hed put HH in strat. section. He need consolation. you must cradle him like you cradle yourboyfriends.
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ok cheerleader, read the rest of the river rats section where almost every thread involves someone proposing strategy.
I just told him my opinion on what I would do. He responded by giving me details.
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Can't we all just get along?

That reraise to 24 was bad.

You basically priced him in. You should have set up all-in.

And just calling with AK is retarded.
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I question why calling is stupid when you are raised knowing full well that the guy is going to push his chips if you reraise and you are probably beat pre-flop. It's not like I'm saying to just call with AK, I was saying he should call the raise. Big difference. It's not like he was the chip leader or anything.

Pre flop all in may have been better, but if that was not the course of action taken then calling a raise is not bad considering the scenario.

It does not good at this point to reraise to have the guy push his chips if you didn't all-in from the get go.

Nevertheless the guy probably wasn't going to fold no matter what, and he'd have to pay him for the beat.

edit: changed reraise to raise

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