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Old 12-04-2005, 07:17 PM
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Hand Number: 251,369,074
Table Number: 3,319,430
Event Name: Table Marienlyst (#2289915)SNHF
Event Started: Sunday December 4th 9:44:52 PM CST 2005
Event Type: PokerPages Satellite
Event Buy-In: 20 + 2 SnG
Game: No Limit Hold 'em
Level IV: 75/150 Blinds (25 Minimum Chip)
Average Stack: 2,142.85 (1,500 starting chips)
Remaining Players: 7 (10 started)
Seat 2 : mistap starts with 3,050
Seat 3 : Ole10 starts with 925
Seat 4 : JHBEBETTIN starts with 2,425
Seat 6 : loadedbullets starts with 1,875
Seat 7 : bcruar starts with 1,600
Seat 8 : cramos starts with 1,550
Seat 10 : barak181 starts with 3,575
Seat 7 : bcruar has the dealer button
>>>DEALING HOLE CARDS<<<
loadedbullets dealt down Qs Qd
cramos posts the small blind 75
barak181 posts the big blind 150
mistap folds
Ole10 folds
JHBEBETTIN folds
loadedbullets raises 375 to 525
bcruar folds
cramos folds
barak181 calls 375
>>>DEALING FLOP<<< [ Js 6c 9d ]
barak181 bets 1,125
loadedbullets raises 225 to 1,350 and is all-in
barak181 calls 225
loadedbullets cards were Qd Qs
barak181 cards were Jc Qc
>>>DEALING TURN<<< [ 6h ]
>>>DEALING RIVER<<< [ Jd ]
barak181 wins 3,825 with a full house, jacks full of sixes
loadedbullets has left the table
loadedbullets finishes in 7th place
>>>SUMMARY<<<
Hand Ended: Sunday December 4th 9:59:30 PM CST 2005
Total Pot: 3,825
Board: [ Js 6c 9d 6h Jd ]
Seat 2 : mistap did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 3 : Ole10 did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 4 : JHBEBETTIN did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 6 : loadedbullets lost 1,875, showed hand [ Qd Qs ]
Seat 7 : bcruar (button) did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 8 : cramos (small blind) lost 75, folded pre-flop
Seat 10 : barak181 (big blind) bet 1,875, won 3,825, net +1,950, showed hand [
Jc Qc ]

Hand Number: 251,359,656
Table Number: 3,319,270
Event Name: Table Kewadin Shores (#2289868)SNHF
Event Started: Sunday December 4th 9:29:19 PM CST 2005
Event Type: PokerPages Satellite
Event Buy-In: 20 + 2
Game: No Limit Hold 'em
Level III: 50/100 Blinds (25 Minimum Chip)
Average Stack: 1,666.66 (1,500 starting chips)
Remaining Players: 9 (10 started)
Seat 1 : BOSSBABE starts with 3,900
Seat 2 : saltshaker starts with 1,450
Seat 3 : raid starts with 550
Seat 4 : real_ute_fan starts with 1,300
Seat 5 : tice76 starts with 1,175
Seat 7 : cashforfun starts with 2,225
Seat 8 : wpplaya20 starts with 1,400
Seat 9 : tmpdaddy1 starts with 1,500
Seat 10 : loadedbullets starts with 1,500
Seat 5 : tice76 has the dealer button
>>>DEALING HOLE CARDS<<<
loadedbullets dealt down 7s As
cashforfun posts the small blind 50
wpplaya20 posts the big blind 100
tmpdaddy1 folds
loadedbullets calls 100
BOSSBABE calls 100
saltshaker folds
raid calls 100
real_ute_fan folds
tice76 folds
cashforfun calls 50
wpplaya20 checks
>>>DEALING FLOP<<< [ 9h 7c Ah ]
cashforfun checks
wpplaya20 checks
loadedbullets bets 1,400 and is all-in
BOSSBABE folds
raid calls 450 and is all-in
cashforfun folds
wpplaya20 calls 1,300 and is all-in
loadedbullets takes back 100
loadedbullets cards were As 7s
raid cards were Ad 4s
wpplaya20 cards were 9s Kd
>>>DEALING TURN<<< [ 2d ]
>>>DEALING RIVER<<< [ 9d ]
wpplaya20 wins 1,700 with three of a kind, nines
wpplaya20 wins 1,850 with three of a kind, nines
raid has left the table
raid finishes in 9th place
>>>SUMMARY<<<
Hand Ended: Sunday December 4th 9:37:17 PM CST 2005
Total Pot: 3,550
Board: [ 9h 7c Ah 2d 9d ]
Seat 1 : BOSSBABE lost 100, folded on the flop
Seat 2 : saltshaker did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 3 : raid lost 550, showed hand [ Ad 4s ]
Seat 4 : real_ute_fan did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 5 : tice76 (button) did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 7 : cashforfun (small blind) lost 100, folded on the flop
Seat 8 : wpplaya20 (big blind) bet 1,400, won 3,550, net +2,150, showed hand [
9s Kd ]
Seat 9 : tmpdaddy1 did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 10 : loadedbullets lost 1,400, showed hand [ As 7s ]

2nd one maybe i should have folded preflop. Figured anyone with an A was calling the flop just didn't expect to get called by K9.
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:11 PM
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You aren't phil helmuth by any chance?
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:30 PM
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lol I just put that as the title of the thread because of the recent Phil Hell bashing that has been taking place on the forums. I would never say that because you cant win much if you don't get lucky in the first place.
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:54 PM
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Quote:
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I would never say that because you cant win much if you don't get lucky in the first place.

Very untrue, when I get lucky and put my money in with the worst of it and win I become very pissed.
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Old 12-04-2005, 10:02 PM
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Why do you get pissed, because you made a bad play or read? I used to think that you could win based purely on skill and skill alone. I have learned that isn't true. You will win most with skill, but you do have to have some luck to win.
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:03 PM
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but you dont want to rely on luck. luck is like a little bonus. however imo, luck is when i hit Ahigh flush and he has K high flush.
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:17 PM
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I'm not implying that I rely on luck to win. I don't ever want to have to rely on luck to win but sometimes you need to. I wish it were 100% skill, but I've realized it just isn't and sometimes you need a little luck to win. If it were 100% skill we wouldn't have all these fish playing because a lot of them win on luck. I guess I should be thankful that luck is part of the game!
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Old 12-05-2005, 04:02 AM
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You should only rely on luck when you have a draw, or if you are in a tight spot and have to go all in with something like QJ off suit, or if you are the chip leader and you call a short stack and he has you dominated.

You shouldn't rely on luck when you call under the gun with A 7 with like 2 other players calling.

The first hand you can't really blame either player for what they did. Although I might question the QJ call before the flop. But thats what you get for playing online.
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Old 12-05-2005, 04:40 AM
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I never said I was relying on luck for playing A7s UTG, I said it was a loose call and I probably should have folded. I never said I rely on lucky to win. All I said is that you need some luck to win sometimes. The luck I am talking about is to win coinflip situations and maybe to catch a card for a straight of flush but only when you have proper odds. If I had to rely on luck I wouldn't play poker.
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