out of 3-4 hands i have had at these tables every single one has lost when i went all in.

Did i do something wrong here? I ended up losing and I dont understand what i did wrong. I've also lost with A-K Two pair, and a straight 10-A. Almost ALWAYS to ppl who were dealt overpairs. They NEVER fold it seems at .10/.25 tables.

Seat 1: gwdolphin ($8.80 in chips)
Seat 3: nikeboyb ($24.10 in chips)
Seat 4: darkertoned ($5.90 in chips)
Seat 5: frankydank ($24.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Cho.Kon.It ($40.45 in chips)
darkertoned: posts small blind $0.10
frankydank: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to darkertoned [Qc 9c]
Cho.Kon.It: calls $0.25
gwdolphin: calls $0.25
nikeboyb: calls $0.25
darkertoned: calls $0.15
frankydank: raises $1.75 to $2
Cho.Kon.It: folds
gwdolphin: folds
nikeboyb: folds
darkertoned: calls $1.75
*** FLOP *** [2c Qs 3h]
darkertoned: bets $0.25
frankydank: calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [2c Qs 3h] [9s]
darkertoned: bets $0.50
frankydank: calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [2c Qs 3h 9s] [8c]
darkertoned: bets $1.50
frankydank: raises $3.50 to $5
darkertoned: calls $1.65 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.85) returned to frankydank
*** SHOW DOWN ***
frankydank: shows [8d 8h] (three of a kind, Eights)
darkertoned: mucks hand
frankydank collected $11.95 from pot
darkertoned said, "wtf"
darkertoned said, "evrytime"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.55 | Rake $0.60
Board [2c Qs 3h 9s 8c]
Seat 1: gwdolphin folded before Flop
Seat 3: nikeboyb (button) folded before Flop
Seat 4: darkertoned (small blind) mucked [Qc 9c]
Seat 5: frankydank (big blind) showed [8d 8h] and won ($11.95) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 6: Cho.Kon.It folded before Flop

Originally Posted by DarkestHand

They NEVER fold it seems at .10/.25 tables.

Would you really have wanted him to fold there? I wish he calls/pushes all day long and get him eventually. Google "poker variance", have some patience, play a strong game and come out on top in the end.

FWIW - You should have folded pre-flop, especially to the big raise, so in some way deserved what you got. Dont get me wrong, he made mistakes to. Maybe he put you on AK/AT... like how can he think you could possible have Q9 with your pf call?

yeah
1. fold Q9 in the SB to a big raise
2. bet more, those pussy bets are basically saying, "hey stick around and see if your hand improves", especially when you hit two pair

I think you have to put him on either a set or a stone bluff on the river. What else would he raise with in LP preflop that this river could improve? If he had something like Aces, he'd probably have been more aggressive on the flop and turn, sometimes people slow play Aces likes that but rarely.

how do you expect anyone to fold when you're giving them 19:1 odds to call

Originally Posted by classickred

how do you expect anyone to fold when you're giving them 19:1 odds to call

Maybe I need to read a book on poker strategy. Because I have no clue the specific amounts i should bet in accordance with my real odds.

Plus i dont think most people at .10/.25 would get the message. I saw someone win $13 the other day with a pair of deuces.

At one table the guy had a low pair + kicker and went all in on it.

Personally...I had a two pair post flop, I raise, one guy had NO OUTS and he went all in...saying "it just felt right".

How the hell can you win against ppl playing like that?

BTW...last night my bankroll was reduced from $40 to $24

Originally Posted by DarkestHand

Maybe I need to read a book on poker strategy. Because I have no clue the specific amounts i should bet in accordance with my real odds.

Plus i dont think most people at .10/.25 would get the message. I saw someone win $13 the other day with a pair of deuces.

At one table the guy had a low pair + kicker and went all in on it.

Personally...I had a two pair post flop, I raise, one guy had NO OUTS and he went all in...saying "it just felt right".

How the hell can you win against ppl playing like that?

BTW...last night my bankroll was reduced from $40 to $24

It has to be said you are doing everything wrong. These people are by a long long way the easiest to beat, when you have AA and they have 72o and it feels right then you'll apreciate it.

Your playing NL25 with $40 bankroll. Meaning if you loose twice you are out of cash. Even if you were one of the best in the world especialy at these limits you will lose your entire roll alot of the time just by probability.

You need to learn that, in poker you do not always win when you are winning. You need to just win a coule of % more of the time than everyone else.

Good luck, if you feel like continuing with poker prehaps some time spent looking into how it really works would be sensible alongside stratergy. $700 down to $450, I've just soaked up variance equivilent to 6x your bankroll. I still think I am better than this limit...

Originally Posted by DarkestHand

Maybe I need to read a book on poker strategy. Because I have no clue the specific amounts i should bet in accordance with my real odds.

it's just math. if a pot is $2 and you bet $1 into it, the pot is now $3 and it's $1 for him to call. his odds are 3:1. It's pretty simple.

Originally Posted by DarkestHand

Plus i dont think most people at .10/.25 would get the message. I saw someone win $13 the other day with a pair of deuces.

so? just saying what someone won with doesn't mean it's a bad play.

Originally Posted by DarkestHand

Personally...I had a two pair post flop, I raise, one guy had NO OUTS and he went all in...saying "it just felt right".

How the hell can you win against ppl playing like that?

...those people are the easiest people to win off of. wtf?

Originally Posted by DarkestHand

BTW...last night my bankroll was reduced from $40 to $24

good job playing NL25 with a bankroll of two buyins. No wonder you're bitching about losing a hand. google 'poker bankroll management'

Originally Posted by classickred

it's just math. if a pot is $2 and you bet $1 into it, the pot is now $3 and it's $1 for him to call. his odds are 3:1. It's pretty simple.




so? just saying what someone won with doesn't mean it's a bad play.



...those people are the easiest people to win off of. wtf?



good job playing NL25 with a bankroll of two buyins. No wonder you're bitching about losing a hand. google 'poker bankroll management'

Are you guys reading properly at ALL? They are dime and quarter tables not NL25!

Sheesh im not that stupid.

Originally Posted by DarkestHand

Are you guys reading properly at ALL? They are dime and quarter tables not NL25!

Sheesh im not that stupid.

LOL is this a level??

If not then I will let you in on a little secret my friend:

dime and quarter tables ARE NL25!!!

Originally Posted by DarkestHand

Are you guys reading properly at ALL? They are dime and quarter tables not NL25!

Sheesh im not that stupid.

NL25 means you buy in for $25 dollars. Since you buy in for 100bb, this means the big blind in $0.25.

You should have at least 20 buyins, so your bank roll should be $500 to play at tables where the big blind is $0.25, and a buyin is $25

Why 20 buy ins? Varience & tilt are a bitch. 20 buyins give you room to make mistakes but if you are an above average player, you should go up more than you go down.