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01-31-2008, 10:01 AM
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River Rat
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Since I sat down at the table
The guy seriously never saw me show down a single hand.. and he still calls me here?
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of Poker coaching - Get an online poker lesson - texas holdem strategy for real poker
saw flop| saw showdown
MP3 (t830)
Hero (t4395)
Button (t7055)
SB (t3210)
BB (t8190)
UTG (t1355)
UTG+1 (t2765)
MP1 (t2850)
MP2 (t7710)
Preflop: Hero is CO with  ,  .
UTG calls t100, 3 folds, MP3 raises to t830, Hero raises to t4395, 3 folds, UTG calls t1255 (All-In).
Flop: (t6730)  ,  , (3 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: (t6730) (3 players, 1 all-in)
River: (t6730) (3 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: t6730
Main Pot: t2640 (t2640), between MP3, Hero and UTG. > Pot won by UTG (t2640).
Pot 2: t4090 (t4090), between MP3 and Hero. > Pot won by Hero (t4090).
Results in white below:
UTG has Ah Js (full house, jacks full of aces).
MP3 has Kd 9d (one pair, jacks).
Hero has 4c 4s (two pair, jacks and fours).
Outcome: Hero wins t4090. UTG wins t2640.
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01-31-2008, 10:02 AM
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River Rat
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insta calls me no less
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01-31-2008, 10:06 AM
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Mike McDermott
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so...you only lost like 25% of you stack
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01-31-2008, 10:12 AM
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to be perfectly honest, id be more concerned with ur own line than that of some guy who refused to fold AJ.
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01-31-2008, 10:29 AM
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River Rat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeYakaBaka
to be perfectly honest, id be more concerned with ur own line than that of some guy who refused to fold AJ.
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What?
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01-31-2008, 10:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeYakaBaka
to be perfectly honest, id be more concerned with ur own line than that of some guy who refused to fold AJ.
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44 = de nutz, stupid!! 
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01-31-2008, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by thedesidawg
44 = de nutz, stupid!! 
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Short stack lost 3/4 his chips previous hand, he was obviously tilting, I was trying to isolate
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01-31-2008, 11:47 AM
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Check Raiser
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Oh boy... a short stack limps under the gun, another shoves in front of you, and you think the UTG limper is going to fold? He's not going to limp for 9% of his stack from UTG with anything but a premium hand. Then you think it's worthy of a river rat post when you lose to a coinflip? ...... 
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01-31-2008, 11:53 AM
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Mike McDermott
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azeldin
Oh boy... a short stack limps under the gun, another shoves in front of you, and you think the UTG limper is going to fold? He's not going to limp for 9% of his stack from UTG with anything but a premium hand. Then you think it's worthy of a river rat post when you lose to a coinflip? ...... 
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I agree with you on most of it, but I've seen people call off more than 50% of their stack pf only to fold on the flop 
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01-31-2008, 12:51 PM
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Check Raiser
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Originally Posted by Bagonirix
I agree with you on most of it, but I've seen people call off more than 50% of their stack pf only to fold on the flop 
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Well yeah, there are plenty of morons out there.  But in a tournament where the blinds are increasing, a shortstack limping UTG (key point to my previous post) most likely has a hand worthy (to them) of all-in PF. Plus, pocket 4's isn't that good of a hand to be reshoving preflop with. You're almost always a coinflip AT BEST against the original shove, and any other calls to your shove will only kill your chances that much more. People often put too much faith in low-mid pocket pairs in tournaments. In cash games if you're all-in with a pocket pair, only a higher pocket pair causes your shove to be -ev; if they have overcards, you win more in the long run. In a tournament however, you can't just rebuy and continue on if that happens to be one of the 45% of the hands that you don't win. To me, 55/45 is not enough of an advantage to shove my whole stack in a tournament unless you are down to a shove/fold M level.
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