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Old 07-15-2007, 12:10 PM
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Default Call my big re-raise with middle pair and get there...

Table '55542960 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Blinds 75/150
Seat 1: Brillopf (4100 in chips)
Seat 2: pitchko (3445 in chips)
Seat 4: Muckaroni (3250 in chips)
Seat 6: 29622 (2740 in chips)
Seat 7: keer (3260 in chips)
Seat 8: SIZZZLIN_HOT (10205 in chips)
keer: posts small blind 75
SIZZZLIN_HOT: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 29622 [Jh Ks]
Brillopf: folds
pitchko: folds
Muckaroni: folds
29622: raises 250 to 400
keer: folds
SIZZZLIN_HOT: calls 250
*** FLOP *** [Ts Jc 8s]
SIZZZLIN_HOT: bets 300
29622: raises 600 to 900
SIZZZLIN_HOT: calls 600

*** TURN *** [Ts Jc 8s] [Td]
SIZZZLIN_HOT: bets 600
29622: raises 840 to 1440 and is all-in
SIZZZLIN_HOT: calls 840

*** RIVER *** [Ts Jc 8s Td] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SIZZZLIN_HOT: shows [Qh Th] (three of a kind, Tens)
29622: shows [Jh Ks] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)

SIZZZLIN_HOT collected 5555 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5555 | Rake 0
Board [Ts Jc 8s Td 7s]
Seat 1: Brillopf folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: pitchko folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Muckaroni folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: 29622 (button) showed [Jh Ks] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens
Seat 7: keer (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: SIZZZLIN_HOT (big blind) showed [Qh Th] and won (5555) with three of a kind, Tens

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After my re-raise on the flop I was pot committed and was forced to move in on the turn, my entire stack being worth less than half the pot.

The idiot called my re-raise with middle pair and hit the 2 outer on the turn...

She had been a calling station the entire tournament, calling people down with trash and sucking out.

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Old 07-15-2007, 12:40 PM
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You were not pot committed, they had any Q/T/9 to win. More than 2 outs

This is hardly a bad beat
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:51 PM
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Even so, he was about a 3/1 dog.

If I folded this I'd be left with about 9 times the BB with the blinds going up in like three minutes. If I folded I would have to be in push or shove mode, meaning I would more than likely have to put it in knowing I had the worst of it.

Based off how he played before, he could have easily had a QJ or a 9J or something similar. Maybe even a draw.
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:52 PM
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You had enough to survive
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:54 PM
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4.5x the BB is enough to survive (which would have been in like 2 or 3 hands)?

I'd double up and still be ultra low.
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Old 07-15-2007, 01:08 PM
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Is this an MTT? Sorry I thought it was a SnG.

Yeah the stack is quite low. Still big enough to steal blinds though.

Shove the flop
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Old 07-15-2007, 01:14 PM
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Yeah it was MTT, not a huge one but one nonetheless (like 90 people).

I could have shoved the flop, but I was hoping that I could take it there without risking my entire stack. The ten didn't seem that dangerous because I didn't think he would call me with essentially nothing after I put in a very large re-raise.

Had I called the turn bet, I would really have been low, and would have been committed on the river. After he minibet the pot on the turn, I was getting odds to call, and if I were to call the turn I would have had to call the river as well. I decided to shove here knowing that it was either a push or fold moment, and folding would have been not have worked considering the odds he was laying me (I believe it was more than 4 to 1) not mention I was already short stacked.

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Old 07-15-2007, 01:25 PM
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Yeah it was MTT, not a huge one but one nonetheless (like 90 people).

I could have shoved the flop, but I was hoping that I could take it there without risking my entire stack. Had the turn been like a Q or an A, it may have been different. The ten didn't seem that dangerous because I didn't think he would call me with essentially nothing after I put in a very large re-raise.

Had I called the turn bet, I would really have been low, and would have been committed on the river. After he minibet the pot on the turn, I was getting odds to call, and if I were to call the turn I would have had to call the river as well. I decided to shove here knowing that it was either a push or fold moment, and folding would have been not have worked considering the odds he was laying me (I believe it was more than 4 to 1) not mention I was already short stacked.
Hang on, you didn't want to risk your stack yet you claim you pot committed yourself?
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Old 07-15-2007, 01:27 PM
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Yep, you're right. Lapse of thinking there. The outcome probably would have been the same though. He probably would have called anyway considering he had a huge chiplead and apparently doesn't seem to know how to lay down trash hands hands considering his call there.

I could have gone in there, probably should have.

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Old 07-15-2007, 01:29 PM
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Yep, you're right. Lapse of thinking there. The outcome probably would have been the same though. He probably would have called anyway.
Meh, at least that way you get it in ahead
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