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01-10-2007, 05:14 AM
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Fish
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For God Sakes!
Ok so im play very low limit game
my hand
JJ
everyone folds except one guy who raises so i think pocket kings/aces so i just call
Flop Comes
3 10 J
I cannot have a better hand at this stage right.
He goes all in so of course i go all in
Turn:
Ace
River:
Queen
He has pocket kings and makes the straight
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01-10-2007, 05:52 AM
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Fish Food
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Not a bad beat at all...he was the dominating pre-flop favorite to win the hand after all the cards came, and that's what happened. You got lucky and cracked his kings when you hit the set. He got lucky to hit runner-runner for the straight.
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01-10-2007, 08:33 AM
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Fish
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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he didnt call all in until after the flop
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01-10-2007, 09:59 AM
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Mike McDermott
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KSUman2010
Not a bad beat at all...he was the dominating pre-flop favorite to win the hand
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That doesn't matter, that's not when the chips went in. When the chips went in JJ was the favourite and that's what counts.
Unlucky mate, thats a harsh beat.
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01-10-2007, 12:01 PM
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Fish Food
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With a flop of 3-10-J I would push with pocket kings as well.
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That doesn't matter, that's not when the chips went in. When the chips went in JJ was the favourite and that's what counts.
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He was the dominate pre-flop favorite with KK, that means by the time all 5 community cards are laid out the vast majority of the time KK will beat JJ. That's all that happened here. KK started out the huge favorite and ended up winning. It really doesn't matter what order the cards decide to come out. If he didn't hit runner-runner for the straight it would have been a mighty suck out against him as his KK would have been cracked by the big underdog of JJ.
Last edited by KSUman2010; 01-10-2007 at 12:03 PM.
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01-10-2007, 12:14 PM
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Fish
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Your saying its better to have
KK
than
JJ
with the flop as 3, 10, J,
Where flushes are not an issue.
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01-10-2007, 02:04 PM
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Chaser
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Does he know you have JJ? He might think you have one J in your hand.....maybe, but really all he cares about is that he has a pair that is higher than what the board shows.
And at micro limits there is not much else people will think about either.
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01-10-2007, 02:13 PM
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Check Raiser
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dog-Toy
Your saying its better to have
KK
than
JJ
with the flop as 3, 10, J,
Where flushes are not an issue.
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No, he's saying KK > JJ over the range of all possible boards, which is clearly true. For the specific flop of 3TJ rainbow, JJ > KK is clearly true also. But nothing's absolute in poker. Or in most any area of existence, for that matter. 
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01-10-2007, 08:31 PM
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Poker Professional
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yvraine
No, he's saying KK > JJ over the range of all possible boards, which is clearly true. For the specific flop of 3TJ rainbow, JJ > KK is clearly true also. But nothing's absolute in poker. Or in most any area of existence, for that matter. |
in the expected long run of hands, kk will beat jj.
end of story haha
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01-10-2007, 10:15 PM
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NL20 Grinder...
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I can't believe this thread got as long as it is.
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