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08-14-2006, 07:48 AM
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AC $300+$40 Tourney at Taj bad beat
Figured there wouldn't be as much crazy shit at this tourney, but it was pretty crazy. Anyway, I was playing very tight early on, very end of level 2, blinds still 50/100, i'm in BB, i get Q Q. Folds around to a guy who'd been playing a lot of hands and taken a lot of chips off someone who played horribly. So he had about 8000, I had about 4800 in chips. He raises to 350, folds around to me, I call. Flop comes out 4 5 9 rainbow. I barely even pay attention to the flop, try to look totally uninterested. I check, he bets out 375, I know he hit nothing. So i pick over my chips for a sec, and raise to 1000. He starts talkin, the flop couldn't have helped me, etc etc. I don't even look at him, just stare straight at the table. He talks for about a minute then puts in about 4000, I didn't count it, I just moved all in. He's like show me your jacks. I turn over Q Q, he turns over A 10 off. And hits an A on the turn. Knocked me out early on that hand. Would anyone have played any differently?
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08-14-2006, 08:06 AM
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He made a horrible call, but I play with people like that in my home game and the online games breed them. My game has gotten much tighter.
I posted my story in this forum about my river bad beat. The poker Gods reward bad play often but not everytime. I would of did the same.
Reading that made me mad. I can't stand horrible players getting rewarded for horrible play. They think they are doing something right. They get put out eventually but it sucks to be a casuality to them.
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08-14-2006, 08:19 AM
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Fish Food
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I couldn't even say anything after that, I was so mad, I would have bet anyone in the room any amount of money that that guy wouldn't make the final table. I went back about 2 hours later, to see if he was still in. He was gone, and there were 3 tables left. That made me feel a little better.
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08-14-2006, 11:47 AM
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Fish
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I'm a noob.... so don't chew me out. plz.
I would have reraised preflop and I would have bet after flop. I understand you didn't want to scare off the only caller, but a modest reraise preflop would have started him thinking..... and then a continuation bet would should have given it away - you have hand, or you're bluffing.
Imagine if he would have just checked instead of bet 
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08-15-2006, 07:38 AM
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Fish Food
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I thought about it, If he'd raised less then 3.5 times the big blind i would have re-raised him, i knew he was playing a lot of hands, and knew I had him dominated, I also knew I was out of position and he was big stack, so I wanted him to think he was in control. After the flop that didn't scare me one bit, I checked because I knew he would bet, and would probably raise if i bet. When I check raised his half pot bet, I expected him to fold right there. And when he started talkin, I knew he had absolutely nothing. When someone says 7 times, "That flop couldn't have helped you" they have nothing. I got the chips in there with better than 8-1 favorite, he just got really lucky, in retrospect, sure I would have saved a lot of money if I just call his bet there, and see the A on the turn. Live and Learn.
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08-15-2006, 10:38 AM
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Just make sure you're not learning the wrong thing!
If you were 8:1 to win, then you have to compare what you'd win those eight times to what you lose that one time. Pushing may very well be the most +EV play here, which means saying "I should have just called" would be WRONG!
But yeah, having that one-in-nine chance hit you like that really does suck.
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08-15-2006, 12:19 PM
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Stu Ungar
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Originally Posted by haque1010
I'm a noob.... so don't chew me out. plz.
I would have reraised preflop and I would have bet after flop. I understand you didn't want to scare off the only caller, but a modest reraise preflop would have started him thinking..... and then a continuation bet would should have given it away - you have hand, or you're bluffing.
Imagine if he would have just checked instead of bet 
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i agree here, with the reraise preflop, then push flop
i played at AC 2 weeks ago the players are awful
once he starts talkin to you about the flop i would of jawed right back at him for intimidation purposes only. something to the effect of you cant call this with your ace high because its an easy read.....
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