Well you will remember my incidient with the set of Kings v the quad sevens with runner runner 7's

Well it has basically happened again.

This time I get a lovely AA into my hot little hands. One raiser, one caller. I bet over the top.

One has K8 the other has A7.

Guess what happens?

Frigging, fucking 7,7 runners again! Fuck this shit

AA for me
777 for turd face going all in with shit

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Any ace will do!

To be fair tho, what were the stack sizes, blinds positions etc etc? Might not have been as bad a call as you think.

Sounds horific tho

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Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

:kh :jd

Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:

Stack sizes - me with 10,000, A7 dude with 6,000, K8 dude with 5,000
Blinds - 400
Positions - me on the button those two just after BB

Both were stupid. How they can think A7 or K8 are awesome hands pre flop is beyond me.

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I honestly don't see what you're so upset about. Were you playing at a loose table? Were you bullying everybody else, stealing blinds? Did you get caught bluffing a couple times? What were the blinds? Maybe they felt it was their best chance to make a move. For that matter, what was the flop? If it was rags on the board and you go over the top while I'm holding an ace? Even I might see what happens with that.

I mean really, it's not like you lost to a duck-seven OS. For that matter, maybe he just picked up on your betting style. On its face, this doesn't really seem like you ran into a lucky donkey.

Ok then

Table was lower limit of course it was loose.
No bullying....well maybe a little here and there, but I had been playing pretty tight.
I may push a little when I have high cards on a low flop, but no, no bluffing.
Already said the blinds were at 400
And disregard my raise to begin with?? Like I said I had basically been playing tight and the hands that had gotten me to that amount of chips were the strongest against Loose types trying to bully the table earlier on.

OK so two outer 7's with nothing on the board and he has gone all in is not a lucky donkey huh? Just like when I copped to outer 7's against my set of Kings for the guy to get quads huh? Just because he looks at the table and sees low nothing he thinks his Ace 7 will come up trumps? The K,8 guy at least held a pair of 8's after the flop....he had nothing.

Twice I have copped runner 7's on the outer (within a few days) to lose to strong hands, and you wonder why I was steamed?

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Again, an Ace-7 isn't that bad a hand. You yourself said you did "some" bullying. Maybe he just chose that hand to make his stand. I mean, you're basically mad because he ran with a "decent" hand pre-flop. He didn't know you were holding the rockets. For all he knew, you were betting on KQ. People tend to think that everyone else is somehow obligated to fold to them when they go heavy pre-flop. It's not an entitlement.

"Bad beat" to me means flushing and someone filling up on the river, or quads losing to quads or straight flushes, etc. Not Just because the pocket rockets went into a showdown before the flop even came down and didn't hold up. Just a pet peeve of mine is all. Don't mind me.

Well thats true - last night got killed by a full house AAA,77 with a seven hitting the river against my flush. Something about me and sevens that just don't mix.

No here you are incorrect - I was playing the typical tight agressive type of game. All hands I played were...in some way strong pre-flop. If I had a reraise to a semi strong hand I may have called to see what the board offered, but if nothing came up then, buh bye.[/quote]

Who said I am blaming the player?? I know all that, and then some. This is to do with the cards and me experiencing almost the exact same thing not long before this. Please read the post again, because I think you missed the point of my rant.

It turned into a showdown before the turn, not before the flop. I missed that in my first post. This was me raising on the flop 4*BB them calling. Flop, me betting big, them going all in. Soz if that caused confusion.

Tell me what the odds are for him to hit two sevens on the turn to defeat my pocket aces? Even on the turn when he hit the first, what were the odds of hitting another? Tell me what the odds are of me copping it twice with in a few days?

Last nights example may well fit into your Bad Beat scenario when I have flushed and he hit the 7 on the river to knock me out, but that to me was not so much of a bad beat as he already held a set of aces and slow played to allow me a flush before the seven on the river killed me off (another A7 lol). This example and the one I refer to first off are bad beats due to the type of plays involved.

A7 dude chose to go all in with nothing (there was no flush draw, no straight draw, and low cards on the table). I was quite happy for that to happen, even happier that the other went in too. But to call me (pushing him all in) with nothing but an ace high was silly, getting the sevens after the turn, was Poker Stars saying "please bend over whilst I insert these cards up your arse for our gratification".

I don't mind your opinions, in fact I applaud them , but the odds of it happening and then happening twice must be......astronomical. Yes there are beats that are worse, but this was what I call a continuation beat.

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OK see the little detail about it not becoming a showdown until the turn rather changes the entire dynamic of the hand. Because the flop obviously didn't help him a lick, and he called or bet through it. Still doesn't make it a bad beat IMO, but does make the guy you're up against something of a moron.

That is, unless you didn't pressure him when the flop came down...

B4 the flop I raised to about 1600 (blinds at 400), after the flop - enough to put him all in.

As one hand it makes it a sucky beat, not a bad one in the entire context of bad beats.

In essence what I am talking about in the first post as a continuation of runner 7's beating better hands at the flop.

1)First one - set of kings v quad 7's
2)Second one - Pocket aces v set of sevens

Then I think I have some justification to cry foul.

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