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Old 07-31-2006, 04:04 AM
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PokerStars Game #5745670183: Tournament #28909785, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/07/31 - 06:46:09 (ET)
Table '28909785 46' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: elbis (2240 in chips)
Seat 2: huckster534 (1230 in chips)
Seat 3: pjmolly (950 in chips)
Seat 4: Big Mikko (1440 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: tomasson (1430 in chips)
Seat 6: big lupi (6080 in chips)
Seat 7: IIAv8tionII (1170 in chips)
Seat 8: bushwilli (4365 in chips)
Seat 9: PoodlePapa (1380 in chips)
IIAv8tionII: posts small blind 15
bushwilli: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IIAv8tionII [ ]
PoodlePapa: calls 30
elbis: folds
huckster534: calls 30
pjmolly: calls 30
Big Mikko: folds
tomasson: folds
big lupi: folds
IIAv8tionII: raises 130 to 160
bushwilli: calls 130
PoodlePapa: calls 130
huckster534: calls 130
pjmolly: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Big Mikko has returned
IIAv8tionII: bets 600
bushwilli: folds
PoodlePapa: calls 600
huckster534: raises 470 to 1070 and is all-in
IIAv8tionII: calls 410 and is all-in
PoodlePapa: calls 470
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PoodlePapa: shows [ ] (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
huckster534: shows [ ] (a full house, Eights full of Sixes)
huckster534 collected 120 from side pot
IIAv8tionII: shows [ ] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
IIAv8tionII said, "moron"
huckster534 collected 3700 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3820 Main pot 3700. Side pot 120. | Rake 0
Board [Qh 6h 8d 6s 8c]
Seat 1: elbis folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: huckster534 showed [Ah 8h] and won (3820) with a full house, Eights full of Sixes
Seat 3: pjmolly folded before Flop
Seat 4: Big Mikko folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: tomasson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: big lupi (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: IIAv8tionII (small blind) showed [Ad Qs] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 8: bushwilli (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: PoodlePapa showed [9d Td] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sixes
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Old 07-31-2006, 04:26 AM
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ok... obviously they both made moronic donkey calls preflop... on the flop however its not as bad...

ME: AQo

yeah.. so the entire table, the railbirds, and the announcers and camera crew all called my raise preflop... this flop is golden for me... i mightve wanted to push.... but a pot-size bet is just fine to deny anyone with the flush draw odds to call... i expect to get folded to and take down the 600ish in the pot..


Donkey #1: 9Ts

ok, he's flopped a backdoor flush draw + double gutshot... facing 2-1 odds.. he has 6 outs to the double gutshot that he can count on (cant count the ones that would make a flush possible... even though we dont know someone has a flush draw yet) he has a 24% chance of improving by the river... assuming he sees all 5 cards.... assuming the flush doesnt hit... easy fold.... he's a fucking moron...

Donkey #2: A8s

now this is where i get pissed off at donkey #1... now this guy is getting 3-1 odds on his flush draw... there is no way he can think his hand is good now... but he has 9 flush outs to the stone cold nuts, and another 8 or ace PROBABLY wins for him... making it 14 outs.. a favorite to improve before the river... he has a 56% chance of hitting an ace, 8, or heart by the river... and with the stacks... he is guaranteed to see both turn and river... in actuality the ace isnt an out... making his actual chance of improvement/winning to be 44%... still makes the call proper... though he made the biggest mistake in the world playing a weak ace to a big preflop raise, he played the flop correctly... as did I....


EDIT... after going through this with all mental percentages.. i went and actually ran it through the odds calculator... the 24% i thought donkey #1 had was actually 23.15% and the 44% i thought donkey #2 had was 43.3%
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though i dont agree with ace 8sooted push there

you'll see alot of that at thislimit


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