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04-20-2006, 08:20 PM
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If that WAS NL, I'm definatley getting stacked, along with pretty much everyone else here. So, you can be thankful for that at least. lol
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04-20-2006, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Marm
Raising the turn has valid arguements, and to be hinest, with that board and that action, I would very tempted too. I see nothing wrogn with it. Its a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. You can probably never get those scenarios right.
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Yes but what are the arguments for it. Elaborate.
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04-20-2006, 10:05 PM
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With this board and the action as it stands, here's our thinking, if we:
A) Flat call the bet on the turn, then we can probably hope to get a CR in on the river, and maybe a cap, but we will probably lose the third guy in the process if he misses his boat or nut flush or whatever he's going for.
B) We CR this Turn. We have decided the pot is big enough that others will fight for it, so we might be able to get in a 3 way cap here. And maybe we might be able to get in another cap on the river.
It's really a matter of probability of what course of action you think will result on the largest pot for you (sorry, losing this in unconcievable, and since you did, you won't have to worry about this the rest of your life, lol). If these guys are passive, then being able to extract an extra bet on the river is probably the best route, but if they are more aggy, then opening it up now may be the most profitable.
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04-21-2006, 07:46 AM
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flat calling on the turn wasn't the best of plays here.
It's fair enough that you have quads and are pretty certain you are unbeatable but still with a reraise and then a call on that raise you should have and could have pushed up the pot more.
If he had trip 9s he would've probably called you if you bet again on the turn anyway but lets say that in most cases he wouldn't of quadded on the river you may not have got a bet out of him then. Best to put your money in when you are pretty sure someone will call with a hand like that.
This is just one of the many many reasons why i hate limit 
Last edited by pates; 04-21-2006 at 07:49 AM.
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04-21-2006, 07:49 AM
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pates - he was raising the maximum....
check/fold the turn.
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04-21-2006, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishodeath
pates - he was raising the maximum....
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i didn't say he wasn't??
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04-21-2006, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FelixTheCat
If that WAS NL, I'm definatley getting stacked, along with pretty much everyone else here. So, you can be thankful for that at least. lol
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Pfft.....you can't fold quads? 
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04-21-2006, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pates
flat calling on the turn wasn't the best of plays here.
It's fair enough that you have quads and are pretty certain you are unbeatable but still with a reraise and then a call on that raise you should have and could have pushed up the pot more.
If he had trip 9s he would've probably called you if you bet again on the turn anyway but lets say that in most cases he wouldn't of quadded on the river you may not have got a bet out of him then. Best to put your money in when you are pretty sure someone will call with a hand like that.
This is just one of the many many reasons why i hate limit 
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Except that I was hoping for exactly what Marm said, to bring both players into the river. I figured if someone bet and the other called, I could get them more committed to calling raises on the river. I am not sure I see how I could have possibly gotten anymore money into the pot.
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04-22-2006, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by KRE8R
Except that I was hoping for exactly what Marm said, to bring both players into the river. I figured if someone bet and the other called, I could get them more committed to calling raises on the river. I am not sure I see how I could have possibly gotten anymore money into the pot.
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it's limit, you bet and people will jst flat call you on river or whatever. If it was NL i would agree with that idea but it's limit and people will call bets as they are getting pot odds or are committed already or whatever
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04-22-2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pates
it's limit, you bet and people will jst flat call you on river or whatever. If it was NL i would agree with that idea but it's limit and people will call bets as they are getting pot odds or are committed already or whatever
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Apparently you have not played much micro limit hold em.
P.S. Dont get me wrong Pates, I understand your logic ok, it just doesnt really seem to work that way in microlimit games. People really dont start worrying about pot odds and such until higher up the chain.
P.P.S. I was also trying to pretend like I was not especially thrilled about my hand, and was glad to only have to pay one bet for it to see the river.
Last edited by KRE8R; 04-22-2006 at 02:57 PM.
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