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  1. #1
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    Default Need to man up and fold KK...

    I feel a bit hard done by on this one... but I do think he had no place being in the hand.


    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    saw flop | saw showdown

    SB ($25)
    BB ($18.37)
    UTG ($41.99)
    MP ($32.78)
    Hero (CO) ($24.15)
    Button ($35.77)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K
    UTG bets $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.75, UTG calls $1

    Flop: ($6.10) 6, J, 3 (3 players)
    BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.50, 1 fold, UTG raises to $6.50, Hero calls $4

    Turn: ($19.10) 2 (2 players)
    UTG bets $16.50, Hero calls $15.65 (All-In)

    River: ($50.40) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $50.40 | Rake: $2
    Main pot: $50.40 between UTG and Hero, won by UTG

    Results:
    UTG had 3, 3 (three of a kind, threes).
    Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
    Outcome: UTG won $48.40

    Thoughts?

  2. #2
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    Actually looking at it I thought the 3 had come on the river, so whilst I still think he was off calling PF this is my fault. Oops.

  3. #3
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    3Bet Pf more then just a min3Bet, raise to like 4$

  4. #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrStalker View Post
    3Bet Pf more then just a min3Bet, raise to like 4$
    This, especially at small stakes. You want to be making your 3bets as big as possible as players are not folding as much as they should be

  5. #5
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    Agree its good to bet more pre as pairs come out together quite often and most players will call if the price is right to hit a set after the flop. After flop is tricky as you have lead out may have looked like a bluff so re raise to check with AJ etc dib't know how aqggressive oponent is but I would have been worried about value calling with AJ against your suspicious min raise.

  6. #6
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    I agree with raising more pre.

    On the turn I think it really depends on reads. I was almost 100% sure he had a set from the way he played it (which I don't like either). I think calling only makes sense if he's really loose/aggressive -- and I mean something out there like 30-40+ or something (total spaz).

    Quote Originally Posted by Rankles
    but I do think he had no place being in the hand
    I think he did, especially after you min-raised. He was getting a good price to come along.

  7. #7
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    if u raise and your opponents don't fold.. you know there is something wrong going on..

  8. #8
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    sorry to bring a downer on it but saying he had no place in the hand is wrong, he had pocket pairs pre flop with out a massive pre flop raise, for the cost of a $ id see the flop with my pockets any day, however when he flopped that set he had every right to be in that hand. when he made the check re raise i would seriously question some kind of set or perhaps 2 pair, either way after that kind of re raise id have to ask myself where my kings stood there. i know its a big laydown but the size of the raise should raise the question.

  9. #9
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    OP, your min raise was horrible as was your tiny flop bet. I generally don't fold overpairs in a 3bet pot so I guess getting it in is OK but really you deserved to get beaten playing like this.

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