2pair BB special mono flop

**KnightofNarg** · 01-12-2011

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem - 8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight | fold when you know you're beat

Stacks:
UTG $5
UTG+1 $5
MP1 $7.88
MP2 $10.04
CO $5.03
BTN $6.99
SB $12.50
Hero $5.77

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 8 players) Hero is BB 6h 3s
4 folds, CO calls $0.05, 1 fold, SB calls $0.03, Hero checks

Flop: 3d 7d 6d ($0.15, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero ($5.72)?

No reads, but it's 5nl so they're probably loose/bad. What's do we do?

**KnightofNarg** · 01-12-2011

In chat profnabeshin said I should bet 10c. I bet a bit more than that.

Flop: 3d 7d 6d ($0.15, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.15, CO calls $0.15, SB folds

Turn: Kc ($0.45, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, CO raises to $0.60, $0.3 to Hero ($5.27)?

**Steve Ruddock** · 01-12-2011

Why not go for a check-raise? This will tell you a lot more about your opponent's hand range than leading out will, where you will either get called or raised by a super wide range. Worst case scenario, it gets checked around and you either hit a really safe card, or one of the 50 terrible cards hit(ok I'm exaggarating a bit), and you can just check-fold having invested nothing in the hand if a bad card comes. Plus this will keep the pot smaller, which I think is a good idea with bottom two on that board.

**profnabeshin** · 01-12-2011

For me its a fold. If he was bluffing I think he would reraise more. The flat call on flop and reraise on turn makes me think you are against a set.

Do you know how many tables he was playing?

**KnightofNarg** · 01-12-2011

Betting lets me take down the pot a good amount of times, with all of the junk hands that missed. By limping in the CO he's already shown loose passive tendencies, so I doubt I'll get an opportunity to checkraise.

I'd much rather try to get 2 streets of value from Adx and Kdx, random overcards and limped middle PP's. I doubt the pot will get oversized, being a limped pot. I'm not too confident in my hand, so I'm willing to fold if there's trouble.

Nabeshin, Sets are always an issue, but having 2pair actually blocks A LOT of sets, there's 5 Combos 33-1, 66-1, 77-3. I'm much more concerned about a slowplayed flush than a set (there's quite a few possibilities).

The raise on the turn IS where I get really thrown off. Because it doesn't seem like a bluff, but just not bet enough to seem like a strong hand.
I am getting decent value to call, and I have a chance to improve against a flush. Though with implied odds I still would have to make up for more than a pot sized river bet, which sucks. On the other hands, I can call and re-evaluate on the river, since I may be up against a hand other than a flush and might be good at showdown.

**profnabeshin** · 01-13-2011

river card??

**KnightofNarg** · 01-13-2011

You don't get to see a river card if you fold :P

**Steve Ruddock** · 01-13-2011

Well, if you say you're not worried about the pot getting out of hand --but a min-raise on the turn has already succesfully done this, or a raise on the flop would do the same-- as well as saying you're willing to fold if there's trouble than this should be an easy fold at this point on the turn.

So, in theory this is a good train of thought, but you are obviously not following this line of thinking

In my experience at these stakes, and someone taking that line, you are facing either a slowplayed flush or he has Kdx, and occasionally Adx and some other random hands. As far as the guy who mentioned set I think a Set would most likely call the turn. There really aren't many hands he is going to min-raise that you are far ahead of and could very well have you drawing very thin --even KdQc is only 65/35ish: Since he open-limped He could have any random junk hand like K6s/K2s: He could've flopped a straight or a flush.

If you include the variables: his position, the pot is getting quite large at this point so he has some fold equity with a bluff on the river, and there are a lot of terrible cards for you, I don't know if I like the possibility of committing half or more of my stack with this hand --which seems to be where this hand is heading.

If you call the pot is $1.65 with another round of betting still to come, not where I want to be with that board.

**profnabeshin** · 01-13-2011

Originally Posted by KnightofNarg

You don't get to see a river card if you fold :P

True. However, I doubt you folded this turn... so I am curious as to the river card.

**KnightofNarg** · 01-13-2011

Bleh, now that I think about what you say. I ended putting myself in a weird spot OOP on the river with little information about the player in a good sized pot. I think if I had a bit more info on villain, I could make a better arguement, but I think you're right.

PokerForums.org

Welcome to PokerForums.org

Thread: 2pair BB special mono flop

LinkBack

Thread Tools

Display