Look at the flop texture, turn, and river carefully. Did I make the right decision at each stage? This hand is keeping me up at night. Please help!
Full Tilt Poker Game #18950345489: Table Apollo - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:54:26 ET - 2010/03/03
Seat 1: KAntfoldAK ($38.56)
Seat 2: juicebox4u ($49.19)
Seat 3: esavor ($68.34)
Seat 4: mayakido ($13.01)
Seat 5: Winsom Cash ($45.31)
Seat 6: slckr22 ($25.34)
Seat 7: trangalanga ($20.07)
Seat 8: Hero ($31.14)
Seat 9: vrub0n ($79.91)
vrub0n posts the small blind of $0.10
KAntfoldAK posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [8d 8c]
juicebox4u has 8 seconds left to act
juicebox4u raises to $0.85
esavor folds
mayakido folds
Winsom Cash calls $0.85
slckr22 folds
trangalanga folds
Hero calls $0.85
vrub0n calls $0.75
KAntfoldAK calls $0.60
*** FLOP *** [8h Jc 6s]
vrub0n checks
KAntfoldAK checks
juicebox4u bets $4.25
Winsom Cash folds
Hero calls $4.25
vrub0n has 15 seconds left to act
vrub0n has requested TIME
vrub0n folds
KAntfoldAK calls $4.25
*** TURN *** [8h Jc 6s] [2s]
KAntfoldAK checks
juicebox4u has 15 seconds left to act
juicebox4u bets $7
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero calls $7
KAntfoldAK calls $7
*** RIVER *** [8h Jc 6s 2s] [4s]
KAntfoldAK bets $26.46, and is all in
juicebox4u has 15 seconds left to act
juicebox4u folds
Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $26.46 returned to KAntfoldAK
KAntfoldAK mucks
KAntfoldAK wins the pot ($36.10)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $38 | Rake $1.90
Board: [8h Jc 6s 2s 4s]
Seat 1: KAntfoldAK (big blind) collected ($36.10), mucked
Seat 2: juicebox4u folded on the River
Seat 3: esavor didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: mayakido didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Winsom Cash folded on the Flop
Seat 6: slckr22 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: trangalanga didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Hero (button) folded on the River
Seat 9: vrub0n (small blind) folded on the Flop
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Thread: 88, btn, flops set ...
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03-03-2010 #1Fish Food
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88, btn, flops set ...
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03-03-2010 #2
I would raise turn to get value out of 66, QJ+, and any draws. He only bet 7 into a 17 pot; flat calling gives the 3rd guy decent odds to call with draws, plus you don't get much information about either of them. Unless juicebox is a total tard and is pot-betting the flop then betting the turn in a multi-way pot with just AK or AQ, he probably has AJ, QQ, KK, AA, maybe 99 or TT. A raise gets value out of those first 4, and 99/TT probably won't be putting any more money into the pot no matter what, so you gain nothing by flat calling. As played, the shove on the river could be 66, 22, 44 as well as a flush or 35 for the straight, but if you had raised on the turn and he still called, the chance of him having the flush is a lot worse.
edit:: just looked at stacks, and would just shove the turn (you only have about $26 left when he bets $7 into $17). Shove and hope AJ, QQ+, 66 call.For great rakeback options and lots of member freerolls and promotions, sign up at Rakebrain!
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03-03-2010 #3Fish Food
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Interesting strategy
I usually hate to go all in with a hand unless I am positive I have the nuts (or very close to it), although thinking about that particularly hand I may be getting a bit greedy with just a call. I should be very happy to go all in at the turn and everyone folds.
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03-03-2010 #4Fish Food
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azeldin, would you call on the river if you were me, given the exact scenario up to the river. What do you think KAntfoldAK actually has? Am I being a nit here and need to gamble a bit more?
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03-03-2010 #5Fish Food
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BTW, I apologize about not using a hand converter. Won't happen again.
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03-03-2010 #6
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($38.56)
UTG ($49.19)
UTG+1 ($68.34)
MP1 ($13.01)
MP2 ($45.31)
MP3 ($25.34)
CO ($20.07)
Hero (Button) ($31.14)
SB ($79.91)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 8
, 8
UTG bets $0.85, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60
Flop: ($4.25) 8
, J
, 6
(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $4.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.25, 1 fold, BB calls $4.25
Turn: ($17) 2
(3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $7, Hero calls $7, BB calls $7
River: ($38) 4
(3 players)
BB bets $26.46 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero folds
Total pot: $38 | Rake: $1.90
Raise anywhere in this hand. Preferably the turn.
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03-04-2010 #7
JJ+/66/nut flushes
not really sure of peoples barreling frequencies at fullring but i'm guessing it's not far from zero and flop betsizing/5way suggests a made hand
i'd jam turn or call river since you got this far
i play 5max so people are more apt to b/c overpairs on the turn, i dunno if people still b/f AA there at fullring so calling turn is maybe better.
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03-04-2010 #8Chaser
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flop seems safe but i would def shove the turn here, as played fold river
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03-12-2010 #9
I think this is very well played, though I'm not that surprised to see people saying shove turn. Your line is higher variance, but I think also more +EV.
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