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  1. #1
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    Default 88, btn, flops set ...

    Look at the flop texture, turn, and river carefully. Did I make the right decision at each stage? This hand is keeping me up at night. Please help!

    Full Tilt Poker Game #18950345489: Table Apollo - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:54:26 ET - 2010/03/03
    Seat 1: KAntfoldAK ($38.56)
    Seat 2: juicebox4u ($49.19)
    Seat 3: esavor ($68.34)
    Seat 4: mayakido ($13.01)
    Seat 5: Winsom Cash ($45.31)
    Seat 6: slckr22 ($25.34)
    Seat 7: trangalanga ($20.07)
    Seat 8: Hero ($31.14)
    Seat 9: vrub0n ($79.91)
    vrub0n posts the small blind of $0.10
    KAntfoldAK posts the big blind of $0.25
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [8d 8c]
    juicebox4u has 8 seconds left to act
    juicebox4u raises to $0.85
    esavor folds
    mayakido folds
    Winsom Cash calls $0.85
    slckr22 folds
    trangalanga folds
    Hero calls $0.85
    vrub0n calls $0.75
    KAntfoldAK calls $0.60
    *** FLOP *** [8h Jc 6s]
    vrub0n checks
    KAntfoldAK checks
    juicebox4u bets $4.25
    Winsom Cash folds
    Hero calls $4.25
    vrub0n has 15 seconds left to act
    vrub0n has requested TIME
    vrub0n folds
    KAntfoldAK calls $4.25
    *** TURN *** [8h Jc 6s] [2s]
    KAntfoldAK checks
    juicebox4u has 15 seconds left to act
    juicebox4u bets $7
    Hero has 15 seconds left to act
    Hero calls $7
    KAntfoldAK calls $7
    *** RIVER *** [8h Jc 6s 2s] [4s]
    KAntfoldAK bets $26.46, and is all in
    juicebox4u has 15 seconds left to act
    juicebox4u folds
    Hero folds
    Uncalled bet of $26.46 returned to KAntfoldAK
    KAntfoldAK mucks
    KAntfoldAK wins the pot ($36.10)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $38 | Rake $1.90
    Board: [8h Jc 6s 2s 4s]
    Seat 1: KAntfoldAK (big blind) collected ($36.10), mucked
    Seat 2: juicebox4u folded on the River
    Seat 3: esavor didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: mayakido didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: Winsom Cash folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: slckr22 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: trangalanga didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: Hero (button) folded on the River
    Seat 9: vrub0n (small blind) folded on the Flop

  2. #2
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    I would raise turn to get value out of 66, QJ+, and any draws. He only bet 7 into a 17 pot; flat calling gives the 3rd guy decent odds to call with draws, plus you don't get much information about either of them. Unless juicebox is a total tard and is pot-betting the flop then betting the turn in a multi-way pot with just AK or AQ, he probably has AJ, QQ, KK, AA, maybe 99 or TT. A raise gets value out of those first 4, and 99/TT probably won't be putting any more money into the pot no matter what, so you gain nothing by flat calling. As played, the shove on the river could be 66, 22, 44 as well as a flush or 35 for the straight, but if you had raised on the turn and he still called, the chance of him having the flush is a lot worse.

    edit:: just looked at stacks, and would just shove the turn (you only have about $26 left when he bets $7 into $17). Shove and hope AJ, QQ+, 66 call.
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    Default Interesting strategy

    I usually hate to go all in with a hand unless I am positive I have the nuts (or very close to it), although thinking about that particularly hand I may be getting a bit greedy with just a call. I should be very happy to go all in at the turn and everyone folds.

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    azeldin, would you call on the river if you were me, given the exact scenario up to the river. What do you think KAntfoldAK actually has? Am I being a nit here and need to gamble a bit more?

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    BTW, I apologize about not using a hand converter. Won't happen again.

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    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB ($38.56)
    UTG ($49.19)
    UTG+1 ($68.34)
    MP1 ($13.01)
    MP2 ($45.31)
    MP3 ($25.34)
    CO ($20.07)
    Hero (Button) ($31.14)
    SB ($79.91)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 8
    UTG bets $0.85, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

    Flop: ($4.25) 8, J, 6 (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $4.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.25, 1 fold, BB calls $4.25

    Turn: ($17) 2 (3 players)
    BB checks, UTG bets $7, Hero calls $7, BB calls $7

    River: ($38) 4 (3 players)
    BB bets $26.46 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero folds

    Total pot: $38 | Rake: $1.90


    Raise anywhere in this hand. Preferably the turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azzkicar View Post
    azeldin, would you call on the river if you were me, given the exact scenario up to the river. What do you think KAntfoldAK actually has? Am I being a nit here and need to gamble a bit more?
    JJ+/66/nut flushes

    not really sure of peoples barreling frequencies at fullring but i'm guessing it's not far from zero and flop betsizing/5way suggests a made hand

    i'd jam turn or call river since you got this far

    i play 5max so people are more apt to b/c overpairs on the turn, i dunno if people still b/f AA there at fullring so calling turn is maybe better.

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    flop seems safe but i would def shove the turn here, as played fold river

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    I think this is very well played, though I'm not that surprised to see people saying shove turn. Your line is higher variance, but I think also more +EV.

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