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    Default PLO noob not sure what's best here

    What's the best line is to take with this hand? CO has 35% ATS and 71% Cbet, SB has VPIP/PFR=46/8. I craised flop because I figure a 17 card wrap with 11 nut outs plus a crappy flush draw is pretty good. When my flop craise gets called by both opponents I get a bit worried because if my flush draw is dominated then my hand doesn't look nearly as good.

    Poker Stars $5.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 309776
    The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
    CO: $15.07
    BTN: $4.66
    SB: $8.89
    Hero (BB): $10.98
    UTG: $10.61
    Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with 7 T K 9
    1 fold, CO raises to $0.15, 1 fold, SB calls $0.13, Hero calls $0.10
    Flop: ($0.45) Q J 6 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $0.45, SB calls $0.45, Hero raises to $2.25, CO calls $1.80, SB calls $1.80
    Turn: ($7.20) 2 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero???

    How do I play this turn? Should I have craised the flop or would a c/call or donklead be better?

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    i've played like 30 hands of omaha in my life and don't understand because there's too many cards, but i'd b/3b flop and get it in cos my hand looks so damn awesome

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    I was gonna say the exact same thing.

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    Actually you have like a 13-card wrap and a flush draw vs some idiot who'll probably think AQxx is the nuts here so you're likely right to try and get it in on the flop

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    Quote Originally Posted by in4rehab View Post
    What's the best line is to take with this hand? CO has 35% ATS and 71% Cbet, SB has VPIP/PFR=46/8. I craised flop because I figure a 17 card wrap with 11 nut outs plus a crappy flush draw is pretty good. When my flop craise gets called by both opponents I get a bit worried because if my flush draw is dominated then my hand doesn't look nearly as good.

    Poker Stars $5.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 309776
    The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
    CO: $15.07
    BTN: $4.66
    SB: $8.89
    Hero (BB): $10.98
    UTG: $10.61
    Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with 7 T K 9
    1 fold, CO raises to $0.15, 1 fold, SB calls $0.13, Hero calls $0.10
    Flop: ($0.45) Q J 6 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $0.45, SB calls $0.45, Hero raises to $2.25, CO calls $1.80, SB calls $1.80
    Turn: ($7.20) 2 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero???

    How do I play this turn? Should I have craised the flop or would a c/call or donklead be better?
    Quote Originally Posted by piv View Post
    i've played like 30 hands of omaha in my life and don't understand because there's too many cards, but i'd b/3b flop and get it in cos my hand looks so damn awesome
    You only have 9 outs to the nuts. Were you counting the ace and eight of spades as nut outs? They complete the flush. Now, your flush draw is almost always dominated, but it IS valuable as a blocker and makes your wrap straight that much stronger. I jam the pot on the flop trying to get it in. On the turn, might as well shove it all in. If you don't, CO probably will.
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    Kinda hate flop check raise into 2 guys.
    Whats you hoping to achieve? neither of them are folding better flush draws as you say.
    Think calling flop is best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by triple-t View Post
    You only have 9 outs to the nuts. Were you counting the ace and eight of spades as nut outs?
    Yeah you're right I shouldn't be calling these nut outs.

    Quote Originally Posted by WotaWaster View Post
    Kinda hate flop check raise into 2 guys.
    Whats you hoping to achieve? neither of them are folding better flush draws as you say.
    Think calling flop is best.
    When craising I was hoping to get it down to either 0 or 1 callers and hopefully knock out non nut flush draws. I figured I have so many outs that I would be in decent shape against almost any hand and could bet again on most turns. Probably a bit optimistic. I just struggle a bit with all the possibilities in this game. I'm always seeing ppl stack off with crap at this level so I'm trying not to be so nitty and get involved with less than the nuts a bit more.

    As it turned out I potted the turn and got 2 callers and was well screwed before I made the big suckout on the river for just a split pot.

    Poker Stars $5.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 313293
    The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
    CO: $15.07
    BTN: $4.66
    SB: $8.89
    Hero (BB): $10.98
    UTG: $10.61
    Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with 7 T K 9
    1 fold, CO raises to $0.15, 1 fold, SB calls $0.13, Hero calls $0.10
    Flop: ($0.45) Q J 6 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $0.45, SB calls $0.45, Hero raises to $2.25, CO calls $1.80, SB calls $1.80
    Turn: ($7.20) 2 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $6.85, CO calls $6.85, SB calls $6.49 all in
    River: ($27.39) A (3 players - 1 is all in)
    Hero bets $1.73, CO calls $1.73
    Final Pot: $30.85
    CO shows 6 5 6 9
    SB shows J K A T
    Hero shows 7 T K 9
    SB wins $12.69
    Hero wins $12.68
    (Rake: $1.45)

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