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    I called the 3 bet but looking back, probably should fold to likely KK or AA. But then again maybe re-raise for busted AK or lesser overpair? Being OOP hurts here.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #14823762423: Table Tune (deep) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:55:49 ET - 2009/09/20
    Seat 1: Re3eL_Pr1de ($10)
    Seat 2: SandraScoti ($10)
    Seat 3: 1207pastinho ($9.95)
    Seat 4: deadmoney212 ($10.51)
    Seat 5: flying09 ($5)
    Seat 6: EvaUA ($10.22), is sitting out
    Seat 7: tommyli128 ($12.07)
    Seat 8: BenutzerID ($10.05)
    Seat 9: boraxe ($20)
    BenutzerID posts the small blind of $0.05
    boraxe posts the big blind of $0.10
    flying09 adds $2.50
    The button is in seat #7
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Re3eL_Pr1de [Qs Qh]
    Re3eL_Pr1de raises to $0.40
    1207pastinho raises to $1.10
    deadmoney212 folds
    tommyli128 folds
    BenutzerID folds
    boraxe folds
    boraxe adds $0.10
    Re3eL_Pr1de has 15 seconds left to act
    Re3eL_Pr1de calls $0.70
    *** FLOP *** [4d 8s 7d]
    Re3eL_Pr1de bets $1.50
    1207pastinho has 15 seconds left to act
    1207pastinho raises to $3.80
    Re3eL_Pr1de has 15 seconds left to act
    Re3eL_Pr1de: AA?
    Re3eL_Pr1de has requested TIME
    Re3eL_Pr1de folds
    Re3eL_Pr1de adds $2.60
    Uncalled bet of $2.30 returned to 1207pastinho
    1207pastinho mucks
    1207pastinho wins the pot ($5)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $5.35 | Rake $0.35
    Board: [4d 8s 7d]
    Seat 1: Re3eL_Pr1de folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: SandraScoti is sitting out
    Seat 3: 1207pastinho collected ($5), mucked
    Seat 4: deadmoney212 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: flying09 is sitting out
    Seat 6: EvaUA is sitting out
    Seat 7: tommyli128 (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: BenutzerID (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: boraxe (big blind) folded before the Flop
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    Any reads?

    Why didn't you want to get it all in PF playing 6 handed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jharding666 View Post
    Any reads?

    Why didn't you want to get it all in PF playing 6 handed?
    I don't think we can read too much into it being 6 handed. The players at the table (at this level) will be thinking "it's FR" and won't vary their play based on who is sat out etc. I think the table will play the same as a normal FR table tbh.

    At 10nl with no reads I'd probably still just ship it in pre, you really can't go too wrong doing that and it beats the balls off calling and playing a 3bet pot OOP.
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    if he's a fr nit and you've been 3b utg it's probably a muck

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    Against most FR players this is a fold, I can't remember if NL10 common 3betting ranges include AQ and JJ or not at FR though, if they do, ship it.

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    Readless at 10nl I think this is a stack off. I wouldn't give him credit for being too nitty and sensible without evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidab157 View Post
    I don't think we can read too much into it being 6 handed. The players at the table (at this level) will be thinking "it's FR" and won't vary their play based on who is sat out etc. I think the table will play the same as a normal FR table tbh.

    At 10nl with no reads I'd probably still just ship it in pre, you really can't go too wrong doing that and it beats the balls off calling and playing a 3bet pot OOP.
    We haven't been told it's readless yet

    I disagree with your point about seeing it as FR. Just because he plays 10nl doesn't mean he can't count how many seats away from the button he is!
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    I had no reads on this guy, this hand was right after I sat down basically. The only hand he showed down, he won. Looking back probably stack off. Can't give him credit until he proves it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jharding666 View Post
    I disagree with your point about seeing it as FR. Just because he plays 10nl doesn't mean he can't count how many seats away from the button he is!
    What I mean is your standard FR player at the micros will sit down thinking "this is FR", they won't pay attention to a couple of folk sitting out. Their strategy will, for the most part, stay the same. A 10/5 nit will still be a 10/5 nit in my experience.

    So when deciding whether or not to stack off this hand, I wouldn't think of it as standard because it is 6 handed, I would still think of it as FR and play accordingly.

    Just my opinion though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidab157 View Post
    What I mean is your standard FR player at the micros will sit down thinking "this is FR", they won't pay attention to a couple of folk sitting out. Their strategy will, for the most part, stay the same. A 10/5 nit will still be a 10/5 nit in my experience.

    So when deciding whether or not to stack off this hand, I wouldn't think of it as standard because it is 6 handed, I would still think of it as FR and play accordingly.

    Just my opinion though.
    yeah, i second this, people tend to have fixed ranges for each seat and don't tend to adjust. it's still going to play as a nitty fr game, not a 6max w/ an extra seat.

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