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Thread: 150nl - tp+NFD

  1. 08-30-2009 #1
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    Default 150nl - tp+NFD

    Thoughts on all streets please.

    I think call > 3b > fold PF

    Stats:

    perucota - 70/21 over 80 hands, calling station, the source of my extra 50bb's, and the main target at the table
    Mr Sushi - 22/13 over 515 hands, a fair chunk of his gap between VPIP and PFR being from cold calling OTB
    hennes204 - 44/8 over 108 hands, short stacking donk

    BossMedia Game #1748828827: Table Table TH 1873 - $0.75/$1.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:12:17 - 2009/08/30
    Seat 1: hennes204 ($46.35)
    Seat 2: Hero ($222.30)
    Seat 5: Mr_sushi ($472.35)
    Seat 3: mira_69 ($170.79)
    Seat 4: perucota ($289.56)
    hennes204 posts the small blind of $0.75
    Hero posts the big blind of $1.50
    Mr_sushi is the button
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [ ]
    mira_69 folds
    perucota raises $5.25
    Mr_sushi calls $5.25
    hennes204 calls $5.25
    Hero calls $5.25
    *** FLOP *** [ ]
    hennes204 checks
    Hero bets $15.75
    perucota folds
    Mr_sushi calls $15.75
    hennes204 folds
    *** TURN *** [ ] []
    Hero bets $35.00
    Mr_sushi calls $35.00
    *** RIVER *** [ ] []
    Hero ??
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  2. 08-30-2009 #2
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    500 hands, any reads on how he's played TP and FD hands postflop?
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    Preflop I would probably pump it up expecting to isolate perucota but calling is also fine.


    $123 in pot and $140 effective left to play sound about right?

    Hard to see him not 3betting AK.
    Line very consistent with a flushdraw. Could have A5/A3s/AQ which we beat or slowplayed 33 55 which obv crushes us.

    Do you think you have more chance getting a call from a hand like AQ/AT or inducing a shove from missed clubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WotaWaster View Post
    $123 in pot and $140 effective left to play sound about right?
    I make it more about $165 left no?

    Without knowing your reads, I would probably bet very small to induce calls from worse aces and shoves from the missed draws. Something like $40 maybe.
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    To be honest I don't really have any reads on this guy, because I haven't been going after him at all I haven't been paying close enough attention. A weakness for sure. Let's assume that they are datamined hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WotaWaster View Post
    Preflop I would probably pump it up expecting to isolate perucota but calling is also fine.
    in your experience doesn't hennes come along every time and you end up in spots burning cbets post flop?

    given you turned top two, you're probably always paying off sets and it brings a 2nd fd i'd probably go bigger like $44, makes river like $140 w/ $155 behind and overbetting is the nuts.

    doubt there's ever AK, sets may flat flop given the whale folded but last donk is still act but they should pump the turn for protection, only 1 combo of JJ, KK folds turn, so as played agree w/ wota and dave and go a lil under 1/2 pot and call.
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    Think I'd shove.

    Cant asumme a guy with stats like that is gonna bindly shove a missed draw into what looks like decent strength from you.
    More chance if you haven't played with him much hes gonna make a hero call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by piv View Post
    in your experience doesn't hennes come along every time and you end up in spots burning cbets post flop?
    dude, this logic of "burning" cbets doesnt even make sense. no one's gonna make you do anything that's not +EV.

    preflop should definitely be a squeeze, and it's not even that close imo. fish are just so bad and will put in so much money with terrible hands. we're not really that worried about the decent player either, bc it's very likely he repops fish #1 with everything that has AJs badly beat.
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    I agree it's probably more +ev to 3bet pre.

    I probably don't have the stones to do it though.
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  10. 09-01-2009 #10
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    I don't think anyone's mentioned c/r flop yet. Thoughts?
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