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    Default QQ on a 3club board with an A

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($3.21)
    UTG+1 ($0.71)
    MP1 ($4.98)
    MP2 ($0.95)
    MP3 ($2.92)
    CO ($1.47)
    Button ($3.52)
    SB ($2.13)
    Hero (BB) ($4.40)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q
    UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP1 bets $0.08, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.18, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.16, MP1 calls $0.10

    Flop: ($0.57) J, A, 6 (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $0.06, MP1 calls $0.06, Hero folds

    this is obv. a pretty bad flop for me. Should I have still c-bet being the aggressor?

    (I'm curious about what you all think, not just at these stakes, but say 50NL and 100NL)

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    You 3bet too small preflop, when it's only 10c more he has odds to call with any overcard, make it 3x at least and closer to 4x OOP. On the flop a fold is fine but I think I call based on the pot size being so small.

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    No way I call on that flop. What's the point? What range of hands are you beating?

    Also, if you think your opponent's are in that range, then you should be raising, which is a tough play on that wet board.

    Raise more pre-flop with that hand strength and position. Not that it will do any good though.

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    fine to fold this flop at NL2 unless you know he is a spewtard.
    iif u raise my raise one more ****ing time i will come over there and slit ur throat

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    Yeah, unless he's been making dumb plays, there's no way you can call/raise that. I'd play it exactly how you did.

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    Definitely raise more preflop. It most likely wouldn't make the fish at this level fold, but more often than not they won't hit a flop that beats you, so charging them more is a good thing. Just don't pay them off if you do get beat, like this hand. Check/fold is good in this scenario.

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    we are getting like 12:1 with 2nd pair and he can literally have any two cards

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    Yeah 30c pre seems good.
    I wouldn't fold for 6c but would defintley check-fold to a bet of say 40c.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WotaWaster View Post
    Yeah 30c pre seems good.
    I wouldn't fold for 6c but would defintley check-fold to a bet of say 40c.
    What is the point of smooth calling the 6 C bet?

    There is only 1 way for your hand to improve, and 1 of the remaining Qs puts a 4th club on the board. Then what do you do?

    No point going any further with that pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallace View Post
    What is the point of smooth calling the 6 C bet?

    There is only 1 way for your hand to improve, and 1 of the remaining Qs puts a 4th club on the board. Then what do you do?

    No point going any further with that pot.
    thats what I figured. It was either raise or fold and I really didn't want to put any more money in.

    I should have raised more pre, but either way i am dumping on this flop.

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