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  1. #1
    Fish Food
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    Default Is this the worst beat ever? and how badly did I play it?

    I am absolutely fuming from this beat - not because the other guy played it wrong, as he played it 100% correctly, but for the fact it is such a sick beat that it is probably more likely I would win the lottery than have this outcome.

    Anyway, apart from the obvious that I should have got my money in sooner, is there any way I could have avoided this beat and what would you have done in the same situation?

    This was on Labrokes and unfortunately for me I was not at a bad beat table - the bonus would have been $83,300!

    ** Hand # 2688908567 starting - 2009-06-28 14:57:25
    ** Columbine [Hold 'em] (2.00|4.00 NL - Cash Game) Real Money

    el_paellero sitting in seat 1 with €141.20
    MGB77 sitting in seat 2 with €375.31
    mrsafe sitting in seat 3 with €394.00
    caso_ sitting in seat 4 with €394.00[Dealer]
    Graeme86 sitting in seat 5 with €420.30
    Timmehhh1 sitting in seat 6 with €400.00
    Graeme86 posted the small blind - €2.00
    Timmehhh1 posted the big blind - €4.00

    ** Dealing cards to Graeme86: Ac, As
    el_paellero folded
    MGB77 folded
    mrsafe folded
    caso_ raised to €16.00
    Graeme86 raised to €56.00
    Timmehhh1 folded
    caso_ called - €56.00

    ** Dealing the flop: Ad, Ah, 7d
    Graeme86 checked
    caso_ checked

    ** Dealing the turn: Jd
    Graeme86 checked
    caso_ bet - €72.00
    Graeme86 called - €72.00

    ** Dealing the river: Qd
    Graeme86 checked
    caso_ bet - €188.00
    Graeme86 went all-in - €292.30
    caso_ went all-in - €78.00
    Graeme86 shows: Ac, As
    caso_ shows: Kd, 10d
    caso_ wins €789.00 from the main pot

    Rake: €3.00

  2. #2
    Mike McDermott
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    To be fair I think you played this ok

    Check on the flop is ok, it's hard to get much out of his range here unless you have any reads you're not telling us about?!

    I would have probably gone bet/bet on that turn and river though
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    LOL. David "Double Barell" ab157 says check. Check it is.
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    Mike McDermott
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    And to answer your question, this is not the worst bad beat ever.
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    LOL. David "Double Barell" ab157 says check. Check it is.
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    The guy I was playing against generally wasn't playing junk. If he raised preflop, and it was re-raised quite a bit back to him, he would fold if he didn't have much. (he did so against me a couple of hands earlier when I had 10,10) He was also quite easy to bluff, so I had a reasonable enough read on him to have been able to fold the Aces, even if I'd hit trips, if he was betting strongly enough. He also had a pretty good read on me, so I was trying to let him think I had K,K or Q,Q and that I was afraid of the Ace, therefore allowing him to bluff uncharacteristically or be able to not worry too much about the aces on the board.

    I was 99% sure he had a flush or was drawing to the flush after the turn, hence why I was happy for him to make his move before I did mine. After the river, I'll be completely honest with you, I did not see the possibility for the Royal Flush and even if I did, I wouldn't have put him on it as K,10 suited is a pretty crappy hand to call a €40 re-raise pre-flop at the limits we were playing at. I had him on either a Full House or flush after the river and it wasn't until I saw the chips go his way that I realised I'd lost.

    Just out of curiosity, what is the worst beat of all time? Or is it pretty much the same cards, just the hand playing out differently? (surely there's more of a chance losing to a higher straight flush, than 4oak losing to RF?)

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    Mike McDermott
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    A bad beat requires you to be way ahead when the money goes in and then lose. This is a cooler.
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    LOL. David "Double Barell" ab157 says check. Check it is.
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    I know it's not the worst bad beat ever - I've had much worse and for a lot more (I re-reraised all in for $1400 with K,K preflop, I was up against A,9 o/s and the other guy ended up hitting a runner runner for a flush on his 9) I was just wondering if this is the worst possible beat you can get in terms of 4 aces losing to a Royal Flush, where both players use both their hole cards? I know a straight flush losing to a higher one would suck quite a bit, but if the board was like 6,7,8 all suited surely there's more of a chance that one person could have the 4,5 & another has the 9,10, than the way my hand panned out with the Aces against RF? I could be talking absolute rubbish here, but although it is statistically harder to get a straight flush compared to 4oak, I feel that it is actually harder to have 4oak & SF (or RF) in the same hand than have 2 SF's?

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    I think you did ok.

    I would probably bet the turn especially if you have a read that he only really fires when he has something. That villain doesn't seem like the spaz bluffy type.

    I'd bet small, give him enticing odds to come along.
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    wow, sick flop, sick board..

    "If you were on a bad beat jackpot table would this qualify?? lol bit of insurance. "
    edit - sorry just re-read, tht bonus would have been nice!!!

    I am not surprised you were fuming though

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    who da eff cares how u played it.
    this situation happens what? once every 1 million hands?
    i think c/r turn would be good.
    i dont really like cheking 3 times cuz river gets check back alot here.
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