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    Default hey some help here this confused me Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) -

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB ($3.99)
    UTG ($5)
    UTG+1 ($5)
    MP1 ($1.82)
    jedwards242000 (MP2) ($4.57)
    CO ($3.65)
    Button ($4.93)
    SB ($6.77)

    Preflop: jedwards242000 is MP2 with A, 10
    3 folds, jedwards242000 calls $0.05, 2 folds, SB calls $0.03, BB checks

    Flop: ($0.15) 5, K, A (3 players)
    SB bets $0.10, 1 fold, jedwards242000 raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.10

    Turn: ($0.55) 6 (2 players)
    SB checks, jedwards242000 checks

    River: ($0.55) 9 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.55, jedwards242000 calls $0.55

    Total pot: $1.65 | Rake: $0.11

    Results in white below:
    SB had 9, K (two pair, Kings and nines).
    jedwards242000 had A, 10 (one pair, Aces).
    Outcome: SB won $1.54

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    I'm gonna start by asking for your reasoning through the hand, to get you thinking critically. Give us a step-by-step process of why you did what you did during preflop, flop, turn, and river. Also let us know if you had any reads or information on the other players, as this is also a part of every hand's decisions. Knowing the fundamental reasons for doing any action during a hand is the key to improving.

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    You're confused because you never put villain to the test at any stage here, and so you had no information to go by other than that he doesn't seem to have great hole cards. Open limping in hijack with AT is way worse than raising. Minraising on the flop, instead of raising something closer to the pot, and getting called only confirms that he has an ace, king, 5 or flush draw in his hand which is too bigger range. Checking the turn after minraising the flop looks so weak that you invite action from so many hands that you have no clue what you're up against on this river. Next time you should raise preflop and more on the flop and let him be confused by you.

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    I dont really like to raise with a10 preflop not saying im right by that. I agree that the flop bet is too small this was a very loose table and i was going to 3bet hoping he raised, he wasnt too loose however he was playing a wide array of hands. I agree i let him in cheap here. Rethinking the hand after reading your comment i see where i went wrong. even if i limp preflop i bet bigger on the flop then continue on the turn and i think the hand is over there.

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    never open limp. raise bigger on the flop to charge more from draws and get value from worse hands like smaller aces and pair of kings etc.

    Checking behind the turn isnt terrible, but I would prolly bet here cos you have the

    As played I'm not sure if he could have the flush. I prolly call and take notes
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    and why on earth wouldnt you like to open raise HJ with AT? You may have simply won the blinds and moved to the next hand.
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    You need to get out of the habit of open limping.
    Raise this up preflop. No reason not too.
    If you are going to reraise his flop bet then make it a real raise. Dont minraise.
    Bet turn imo.
    As played call river since its NL5 I guess. He could turn up with a number of different things.
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    Why in the name of god are you not betting that turn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidab157 View Post
    Why in the name of god are you not betting that turn?
    The min raise on the flop is what concerns me the most!
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    LOL. David "Double Barell" ab157 says check. Check it is.
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    don't play ring, but my theory as to why people don't like open raising certain hands (depends on the player as to what this range is) is because they are afraid that they will be 3 bet...so what. AT is a great hand to open raise from in position because if you do get 3 bet (depending on the person doing the 3betting) then you can easily let it go cheaply. There is no shame from raise/folding PF in position with marginal holding (imo) for a lot of different reasons.

    As played, go with what everybody else says.
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