I came across this hand and I couldn't make much sense of what villain had or was repping.
I was wondering what you guys put him on.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (BB) ($9.20)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 6
3 folds, Button bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30
Flop: ($0.85) 10, 4, 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.40, Button raises to $2.80, Hero folds
Total pot: $3.65 | Rake: $0.15
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Thread: confused about villain
June 23rd, 2009 #1
confused about villain
June 23rd, 2009 #2
...he's repping a hand that beats middle pair
why did you checkraise?
June 23rd, 2009 #3
why did you checkraise?
certainly was not expecting the light 3bet.
June 23rd, 2009 #4
At NL10 he most likely has either a monster, monster draw or an overpair (in my experience anyway). Yeah dont c/r this flop. Either b/f or c/f.
June 23rd, 2009 #5
June 26th, 2009 #6
I wouldn't c/r a fish in that spot, they won't fold 88-99 or stuff like that cos it is zee nuts to them.
A decent player I could like a c/r against but probably a different board texture cos you rep absolutely nothing except the odd 22/44/random FD so they'll give you no credit and move in on you with all kinds of stuff (similar range to the fish perhaps, but they are doing it for the right reason!).
Now, a reg who loves to cbet but doesn't think about what range his opponent is repping, that is who you want to c/r.
Classick, it's all good saying we are folding out hands we beat, but with 66 there while we are technically ahead of all those overcard combos, we have no idea where we stand. Do we just keep c/c because we "are ahead of alot" even when the board inevitably hits his percieved range on the turn/river?
June 26th, 2009 #7
Should we really checkraise just because instead of analyzing his play we can say "well, we have a pair, lol put money in"? You're literally betting for information, are you not?
in all fairness, it's probably not that bad vs. most NL10 players but it doesn't do much for developing a thought process to this game we're playing
June 27th, 2009 #8
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A lot of the discussion has been about should we/shouldn't we check raise, something that I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned yet is that you need to make it bigger! You're giving him 3-1 direct odds which is going to make it hard to get rid of him on the flop. I think if you're going to bluff, do it with one big bet now rather than one small one that will have to be followed up on the turn (c/r flop this small and c/f turn is just burning money!)
edit - I'd be going much closer to pot fwiw
2nd edit - try to give more of a read on the player in future, 3betting PF isn't out of the question for example until we know our villain
June 28th, 2009 #9
yeah if I c/r I make it $2ish.
June 28th, 2009 #10
I know 6 max is a lot looser/more aggressive then a full ring table (don't play those either) but I'm going to throw my 2 cents in on how I would feel about this hand anyway
Pre-Either we think we've got him beat and he's just making a position raise with a wide range (in which case we can 3 bet and feel good about it) or we're set mining...set it or forget it.
on the flop, I think the check/raise is not the line we want to take. I wouldn't mind peeling one off, but with the T on the board, there are a lot of hands in his range that it hits...think any two cards that contain a T and are 9 or higher. so there is a good reason to believe he may have hit hard here...(or already had you beat).
The turn is almost always going to be a scare card. I personally say that you play Pre for set value and let it go after that...Originally Posted by Jason75
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