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    Poker Hustler 4tun8's Avatar
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    Default Tough spot with QQ

    $0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    7 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG StuckInARutt ($5.00)
    UTG 1 Liweikai ($5.92)
    MP MatroSS89 ($25.00)
    CO code00red ($35.81)
    BTN Hero ($40.21)
    SB GAN241 ($36.45)
    BB Vladisl7 ($5.00)

    Pre-flop: ($0.35, 7 players) Hero is BTN : :
    GAN241 says "wp", 1 fold, Hero says "hehe", 1 fold, MatroSS89 raises to $0.85, code00red calls $0.85, GAN241 says "laugh all u like just dont lose now", code00red says "im losing it...", Hero raises to $3.75, 2 folds, code00red says "i probbly will get stacked in 15 minutes", [color=#cc0000][b]MatroSS89 raises to $8.85


    No reads on villain, I had 4 hands on him in HEM

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    Get it in imo.

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    Yeah I've got it in about 5 in the last 48 hours. AA AA KK QQ QQ all cracked or against their betters. Just a bad run but wanted to make sure getting it in was the right move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJPerry View Post
    Get it in imo.
    you've played NL25 on stars, do you really think villain is calling a 5bet shove with something like JJ or KQs?

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    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 59.793% 57.93% 01.86% 172607388 5540034.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
    Hand 1: 40.207% 38.35% 01.86% 114253440 5540034.00 { QQ }


    You need 42% equity to just call. against QQ+ AKsAKo...this is FR..IT MIGHT BE RIGHT FOLD PF NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooo
    iif u raise my raise one more ****ing time i will come over there and slit ur throat

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    You're on the Button.
    If the UTG is openraising a very tight range such as JJ+ and AK only, then your 3bet is bad.
    If the UTG is opening a very wide range yet only 5betting AA/KK then again I think your 3bet is fairly bad as it is turning QQ into a bluff.

    In short, only 3bet here if you know you are going to be instashoving on a 4bet.
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    utg and utg+1 have folded so it's effectively MP in which case 4b/call is std.

    on the other hand it's 7 handed so it's a fr table and it's not like people adjust ranges when 2 or 3 people sit out, in which case i'd imagine flatting pre is probably more correct which wota alludes to.

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    I don't think you can go too wrong just shipping it in here but with it technically being a FR table you may be better off just calling the first raise.

    If the UTG is opening a very wide range yet only 5betting AA/KK then again I think your 3bet is fairly bad as it is turning QQ into a bluff.
    I kind of agree but if UTG is calling 3bets with alot of that range (like loads of micro stakes players do), it makes 3betting pretty good no?
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    i fold , because i have no bottle :P
    who dares wins ;)

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