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is this spewy? i did think he may ave a set but surely i get called by worse here all the time?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com
BB ($0)
UTG ($5.35)
Hero ($23.42)
CO ($40.59)
Button ($31.79)
SB ($24.15)
Preflop: Hero is MP with,
. UTG posts a blind of $0.25.
Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 2 folds.
Flop: ($2.35),
,
(3 players)
Hero bets $1.75, Button raises to $4, Hero raises to $10.5, Button calls $26.79 (All-In), Hero calls $11.92 (All-In).
Turn: ($55.56)(3 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($55.56)(3 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $55.56
Results in white below:
Hero has Ad Ac (one pair, aces).
Button has 9h 9c (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Button wins $55.56.
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04-23-2009 #1Check Raiser
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04-23-2009 #2Chaser
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With those stats I'd have thought that you're only really ahead of AJ/KJ/QT/T8/78 sort of hands when he raises you on the flop [I tend to think of a 20/14 in 6max as someone who plays straight forward and never gets too out of line]
I'd never call his 4bet shove in this spot even though you only have $16 to call cause he's at worst shoving 2pairs here at best. So we're likely crushed by his range imo. [his AF doesn't seem to show that he'd push draws this hard].
I think folding flop is too weak, so I'd just call his re-raise on the flop.
Since the turn's a semi-blank [78 made a straight but that's only one hand whereas he has more draws], I may consider b/f the turn since we get value from his draws and are only really ever getting re-raised by made hands since our line looks pretty strong so we can fold knowing we are beat.
I think c/c turn seems weak and he can easily push us off with his draws here and we either face a big bet on the river if he hits/has a set or we make no money when we call and he misses river with a draw.
Edit: About your 3bet. It's true you may get called by worse, but you won't really make much more from one pair hands on later streets unless they pair their kicker.Last edited by breathoflife89; 04-23-2009 at 06:57 PM.
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04-23-2009 #3Check Raiser
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the only hands that beat me are j9 99 and 66 surely ive got loads of equity agaisnt his range?
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04-23-2009 #4Chaser
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With his stats, what range of hands do you expect him to re-raise your flop bet and then 4bet-shove your 3bet?
Against this range you're about a 4-1 dog [I don't expect him to do this with too many draws when his AF is only 2].
Board: 6h 9s Jc
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 21.263% 21.26% 00.00% 7578 0.00 { AcAd }
Hand 1: 78.737% 78.74% 00.00% 28062 0.00 { JJ, 99, 66, J9s, J6s, 96s, J9o, J6o, 96o }
I expect that you're pot committed to call now for a small +ev call or a smaller -ev decision than folding would be, I'm not sure cause I haven't tried to work it out yet.
Of course he could have a wider range and have a weirdly played QQ and KK in there too. [If you think i'm putting him on too narrow of a range then please tell me]
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04-23-2009 #5Poker Professional
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you're complete toast when he 4bet shoves. nobody is 4betting here with QT or KJ
I go broke here, but I do it on the turn
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04-24-2009 #6Check Raiser
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j 6, 9 6 and jj are not in his range here, JJ would recieve a 3 bet preflop i assume and 9 6 and j 6 would just never call the preflop raise.
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04-24-2009 #7(Formerly Steve-O)
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What stands out to me is the 20/14 he's not a caller
I don't see this guy calling with cheese hands, and he'd re-raise anything potent. Most 20/14 types only smooth call with pairs and suited connectors.
I'd probably 3 bet to $8 (minimum) and fold to the 4-bet. His raise could signify TT, 88, 77 and he thinks you have AK/AQ/KQ type hand. However, once you 3-bet and he moves in you have to know you're beat and looking at 66 or 99.Read my musings on poker and life at Online Poker Examiner, Poker Examiner, PokerNewsBoy.com, and My Poker Blog
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04-24-2009 #8Staff News Poster
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He has 66 50% of the time, 99 40% of the time and JJ 10% of the time here.
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04-24-2009 #9Poker Professional
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i don't really like the flop 3-bet here as its pretty dry and your just going to be folding out all the hands you beat by 3betting.
If you feel like your opponents raising a lot of your flop cbs and can bluff-raise flop here/value-raise here a lot of the time with worse (like JX, 9X) and generally just playing back at you a lot, and you are willing to play AA for your stack. Then your almost always better off just flatting and check-raising turn AI instead of 3betting, as you allow him to bluff u on one more street before getting the money in (something that he wouldn't have been able to do otherwise if you had 3bet him on the flop).
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04-24-2009 #10Stu Ungar
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yep, call and c/shove turn
Originally Posted by classickred
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