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05-12-2008, 10:28 AM
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QQ, turn paired the board
I switched to 6-max, so there will be some simple hands / stupid questions.
Villain is 50/25/2.2 20 hands only.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)
UTG ($15.15)
Hero ($10.75)
Button ($10.60)
SB ($8.15)
BB ($3.05)
Preflop: Hero is MP with  ,  .
UTG raises to $0.4, Hero raises to $1.2, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.80.
Flop: ($2.55)  ,  , (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.7, UTG calls $1.70.
Turn: ($5.95) (2 players)
UTG bets $3.1, Hero ???
I think flop bet is too small, should i bet like $2?
Last edited by Scanner; 05-12-2008 at 11:05 AM.
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05-12-2008, 11:15 AM
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Firstly, this post (and every one of your posts) needs semi-naked ladies.
Anyhoo to the hand,
I would re-raise 3.5x or pot preflop, so $1.40 or so. 3x isn't terrible though.
I would bet a little more on flop, maybe 1.80-2.
Turn kinda sucks, I can't imagine he does this too often with a FD or a 78/JQ type hand, they just tend to keep check-calling. JQ is obv less likely cos you have 2 yourself.
I fold turn, I really don't think you're good that often.
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05-12-2008, 12:27 PM
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hrm. interesting spot because you have ~$6 left so calling is the worst play because you're committed to any river. part of me wants to stick this in, but it'd be essentially a minraise so you're not going to have a whole lot of fold equity.
Still, paired boards are often bluffed at at NL10 and also players at NL10 think if they have top pair with a good kicker on a paired board that it's the nuts. AT is a very likely holding given his play, and I don't think a nine is a huge part of his range.
Folding isn't bad but I might stick it in imo. Also, I agree with David's bit about bet sizing.
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Firstly, this post (and every one of your posts) needs semi-naked ladies.
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he's got unsuited queens 
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05-12-2008, 04:02 PM
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I think you are pretty bad against a range of hands he could be doing this with. I just don't easily see a hand he could have that you beat, maybe JJ. And even then I'd probably be expecting him to check raise the flop if he was quite aggressive, JJ isn't a great trapping hand here. Also you've played the hand very fast, so you look like QQ+ to anyone that's noticing.
I'd Fold I think, but any little read you might have could sway me either way I think. If I had to guess, I'd say he's trapped you PF with KK+ or has lucked out and hit a set of Tens/T9s/98s, but it's a tight range to put a 25% raiser on.
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05-12-2008, 06:19 PM
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I think you have to fold on the river. As previously mentioned, part of the problem with this hand is your bet size on the flop. I think you're bet should be in the $2-2.30 range. My best guess is that the dude hit a set of 10s on the flop and sucked the money out of you, leading to a turn bet.
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05-13-2008, 12:35 AM
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Stu Ungar
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swear i poasted in here but whatever
i think he has Tx and fd enough to shove this here.
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05-13-2008, 08:10 PM
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Quote:
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swear i poasted in here but whatever
i think he has Tx and fd enough to shove this here.
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I agree with Piv. At NL10 he does this fairly often with FDs and practically any T. He is crazy loose preflop.
I wouldnt fault you for folding though to be honest. Lots of hands he could have that put you in a bad position.
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05-14-2008, 06:46 PM
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David/sb you cannot be serious, you fold the turn ?
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05-15-2008, 03:05 AM
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Stu Ungar
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This is an instashove, he has KT whatever this guys plays any two cards
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05-15-2008, 03:08 AM
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I never fold this turn, it's so unlikely he has a 9. AT, KT, QT, JT, TT, JJ and probably even 88 are going to give you their money.
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