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04-20-2008, 02:06 PM
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NL50 TP2K, nut draw on turn
Villain is to my right on purpose, he seems like a decent player and I don't want to play him OOP too much. His stats are something like 18/18/5 over around 50 hands. He'd bet me off a hand a bit earlier which I gave him credit for too.
Turn is a bad card I suppose. I don't ever see him playing AK/AA/KK this way though, so I think my kicker is still good when I bet. The Ks and As are taken so he would only have SC's, but even then he'd probably have a big combo draw on the flop, so he'd probably have just raised my cbet while his odds are good against Ax.
I'm not sure why I bet weaker on the turn, I guess I wanted him to shove AK or a made flush so I could get out, but his bet is even stronger in my opinion. I think I got myself into trouble here, as I allowed him to bluff, not that I think he is there that often.
Is this a check for pot control on the turn, I figured AQ was still good here against all but a small range he could be holding, and of course I have a small chance to suck out on the river if I'm wrong.
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight | fold when you know you're beat (BETA)
Stacks:
Hero ($54.15)
CO ( $46.50)
BTN ($59.05)
SB ( $55.25)
BB ($53.45)
Pre-flop: ( $0.75, 5 players) Hero is UTG
Hero bets $2, 1 fold, BTN calls $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1.50.
Flop:  ( $6.25, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, 1 fold, BB calls $4.
Turn:  ( $14.25, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7, BB bets $20, Hero ???
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04-20-2008, 02:35 PM
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Stu Ungar
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def calling to the redraw
and your turn bet suckkkkks
make a crying check call on the river
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04-20-2008, 06:28 PM
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Yeah I bet no less than $5.50 on the flop and in all honestly I would tend to pot it here.
I just have a very hard time calling the turn for a redraw though since really we dont have the odds.
Honestly without further reads I may just fold to his turn RR and look for a better spot.
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04-20-2008, 06:58 PM
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pretty easy fold imo, you don't really have any implied odds because if he's decent he's not paying you with anything on a 4 card flush board when the ace of that suit isn't out there. his line is pretty consistent with a set, knowing you'll fire AT+ twice.
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04-21-2008, 12:13 AM
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That turn bet is gonna get raised a ton, for that reason you can't fold imo.
A more standard $10-11 bet getting shoved on would be an easier fold.
I think I call and then you have to make a crying river call on a non spade, obv call a spade
Calling is probably better than shoving, you at least let him bluff you and there's not a ton of scary river cards for you.
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05-06-2008, 05:10 PM
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Chaser
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Not having seen him play I believe he is weak based on the call then checking, he could be trapping you but with such a weak start and with you haveing nut flush and AAs bearing in mind his big bet was with a K I say call.
He almost certianly doesn't have AK other wise with AAs best kicker why didn't he bet not just call on the flop? So AQ could be best. So odds are he has KKs if he not bluffing at the pot. He clearly might have the flush, but flush draw vs flush if you have the Ace I still say call. Hey it doesn't happen often.
Last edited by bluffwithoutcuase; 05-06-2008 at 05:18 PM.
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05-06-2008, 06:03 PM
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Banned
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never bet half the pot. 3/4 or the pot.
You gave him the opportunity to take control of this pot with a half pot sized bet. (makeing you seem weak/not so sure of your hand). If this was me, I wouldn't be a believer in his spades. Especially seeing as he bluffed you off a hand earlier. I think he was just trying to steal this pot with that 20 dollar raise.
Either way you pray for a spades, but I bet the pot on the river.
I think he probably has two pair. amiritee?
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05-06-2008, 10:23 PM
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Poker Professional
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coleman standard is 2/3 on turn
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05-06-2008, 10:43 PM
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Poker Hustler
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check the turn, he doesnt have anything you're getting 3 streets of value from anyway. call a bet on a blank river or vb if he checks to you. obv bet/raise if a spade falls
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05-07-2008, 09:10 AM
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Fish
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yeah i check turn snapcall river or bet river if he checks
this induces bluffs from worse hands and gives you a free look at a spade when you are behind.
AJ isn't calling 3 times anyways so going for value on all 3 streets is pointless
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