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04-19-2008, 05:13 PM
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NL50 JJ overpair facing 3bet OOP
Cake Poker = no converter/no stats
I noted that this person had been multitabling and I hadn't seen him do anything out of line
3bet too small? Call shove?
Dealer: Hand #1476011406000103
Dealer: tourplayer posts small blind
Dealer: classickred posts big blind
Dealer: Dealing hole cards
Dealer: APPCE folds
Dealer: outlet12 raises to $2
Dealer: nvs22 folds
Dealer: JesusHadaKid calls
Dealer: tourplayer calls
Dealer: classickred calls with [Jc Js]
Dealer: Dealing flop: [ 2h, 6d, 8c ]
Dealer: tourplayer checks
Dealer: classickred checks
Dealer: outlet12 checks
Dealer: JesusHadaKid bets $5
Dealer: tourplayer folds
Dealer: classickred raises to $14
Dealer: outlet12 folds
Dealer: JesusHadaKid is all in
Dealer: classickred ??
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04-19-2008, 05:15 PM
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meh, meant to say shove in title
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04-19-2008, 06:08 PM
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Stu Ungar
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I call here... I've played jesushadakid at .25/.50 on cake and havnt found him a particularly strong opponent
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04-20-2008, 12:19 AM
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Mike McDermott
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are ur stacks $1,000,000?
b/c If they are I fold/
what I am saying is: we need to know how much it costs to call a shove.
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04-20-2008, 06:20 AM
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my bad, durrrr. I'm used to posting stars hands. Effective stacks are 100bb's for me and villain.
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04-20-2008, 07:09 AM
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hes betting flop into 3 players that checked to him so his range on this board is sets and overparis and never bluffs.
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.977% 48.98% 00.00% 11637 0.00 { JcJs }
Hand 1: 51.023% 51.02% 00.00% 12123 0.00 { QcQh, QcQs, QdQs, JcJh, JcJs, JdJs, JhJs, TT-88, 66, 22 }
you're basically flipping against his range. took out half the combos of QQ and 2 combos of JJ coz i think they 3bet pre most of the time but sometimes the tagfish just flat them.
edit: waht i'm tryin to say is i probably fold but can't really fault a shove.
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04-20-2008, 07:24 AM
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if you're flipping vs his shoving range you should call.
I probably lead this flop, I doubt you get bluff-raised too often and you protect yourself against all sorts of stuff. Plus, I doubt the pf raiser will cbet a big range here in a multiway pot.
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04-20-2008, 08:53 AM
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Mike McDermott
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3bet pre flop
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04-20-2008, 11:57 AM
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nice post david, I agree with you.
J, it probably would've been a good spot but I'm so less apt to 3bet when I'm OOP that I didn't this time 
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04-20-2008, 02:43 PM
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I think JJ is a 3 bet here. We aren't liking a lot of flops against 3 opponents, as overcards will kill our action and all undercards can hit sets for our opponents cheaply. We are really set mining here by calling IMO.
As played, it's not a great spot. I can see him doing this with 99 and TT, but that's about it that you beat. I'd say a set is very likely, but given how much you've put in the pot already, and the fact you've under-repped your hand PF, and there are still a few hands you beat, a call is probalby the best move.
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