[jharding666]

UTG is 44/19/3 over 30 hands
CO is 18/12/7 over 60 hands
BTN is 21/11/6 over 50 hands

I made the 3bet pre flop on the smaller side so I could 4bet over a shove from the donk UTG. Granted a bigger bet of $9 would still accomplish this.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (8 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

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Button ($140.65)
SB ($43.45)
BB ($28)
UTG ($20.50)
UTG+1 ($106)
Hero ($100)
MP2 ($123.70)
CO ($146.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, A.
UTG raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7.5, 1 fold, CO calls $7.50, Button calls $7.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $5.50.

Flop: ($31.50) 5, 2, K (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $19, CO raises to $70, Button folds, UTG folds, Hero ???,

[davidab157]

AF of 7 is a little strange but it's a small sample I suppose. If this guy is solid (and the stats look reasonable) then I fold cos you betting into that field shows a ton of strength, so I reckon he has a set soooooo much here.

[mister.x]

reraise all in. If he has 5's or 2's, KK or AA, well, that's unfortunate and I'd lose money.
I put him on 9's to Q's, KQ or AK. I really don't think I'm behind here and if that's the case, I'm going broke.

[jharding666]

Originally Posted by mister.x

reraise all in. If he has 5's or 2's, KK or AA, well, that's unfortunate and I'd lose money.
I put him on 9's to Q's

Care to explain why?

By the way I don't know if this guy is Asian or not, sorry

[mister.x]

Originally Posted by jharding666

Care to explain why?

By the way I don't know if this guy is Asian or not, sorry

LOL. No flush draw, so he's not asian

ok seriously... here's my personnal analysis.
The hands that beat us are sets :

22: unlikely. Small sample of stats, but I don't think a player like that would of called with 22 after a raise and a reraise preflop. If he hits a set, he hits a bottom set. Most of the time, any set is good, but bottom set can be beaten by a higher set and we cannot totally neglect that.

55: same logic has 22 but I give it more credit. Still, it's dangerous to call with 55 with a raise and a reraise. Also, if he hit a set of 5's here, I think a slowplay of just flat calling on a dry board like that is more logical to get more people with a K involded in the pot.

KK: We hold one of the kings, so there are less combinations of KK possible. I think also he would of raised preflop to get rid of the AQ type of hands out of the hand. Also, why not slowplay by just flat calling on a board like that on the flop ? Because we are scared of A4 ? not a chance. We actually want to give a free card for a pair to hit a set on the turn, or an ace so somebody pairs his ace in the hole.

AA: Again, we hold one of the aces, so there are less possible combinations of that.
The betting fits more (flat calling to trap on the flop). If he has AA when I have AK, so be it here, I can't do anything about it. The flop though is not very dangerous for AA here.


The raise on the flop is huge. It seems he wants us out of the hand, like right now. He cannot improve (2 outs) with QQ so he wants to take the pot right now or he thinks he can take the pot right now.

The betting sequence here (from my experience and it's worth what's it worth) is to him, you have a pp 1010-QQ you cbet/prob on the flop, scared of the king, he raises wanting to take it from you "sensing weakness", or at least, you don't have a king.

Maybe he has KQ-KJ suited (or not) and does not want to see an overcard on the turn, taking the pot right now even though, him holding a king is less likely because we hold one.


One thing for sure here is I feel I'm ahead here the vast majority of the time. If I'm not, and I am beat by a set of 5's, 2's, K's or AA, I would have absolutely no regrets at all.


Edit : If he has 2 pairs, he's an idiot.

[davidab157]

Because of the small 3bet size I think 22/55 are likely enough. It does depend how crazy UTG is, if you reckon he shoves over the 3bet alot then maybe 22/55 are very unlikely.

Postflop this is bluff or monster, I doubt he turns KQ or something into air and I just think betting into that many people screams so much strength that he won't bluff you too much.

[WotaWaster]

He prob also has AK.
It's a fold since we should never be winning.

[tarath]

This is a set like always. I fold pretty quick here.