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Old 04-16-2008, 05:10 AM
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Default 100nl - QQ 3bet vs cold caller

RRAAFFAA is 61/4/2.5 over 50 hands. This is the 2nd time he has cold called my 3bet within the last few orbits. Last time he c/f a ATx flop.

I think this is uber standard but just in case....

What do we think of turn play? QQ is obv a monster against such a donk but people do love cold calling 3bets with mid pairs.

BossMedia Game #1032390558: Table Table TH 11 - $0.50/$1.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:21:50 - 2008/04/08
Seat 1: RRAAFFAA ($279.51)
Seat 2: Kompos ($36.45)
Seat 3: DISMISS ($99.50)
Seat 4: Hero ($120.05)
Seat 5: Kaksnel242 ($104.00)
Kaksnel242 posts the small blind of $0.50
RRAAFFAA posts the big blind of $1.00
Hero is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [ ]
Kompos raises $4.00
DISMISS folds
Hero raises $14.00
Kaksnel242 folds
RRAAFFAA calls $14.00
Kompos calls $14.00
*** FLOP *** [ ]
RRAAFFAA checks
Kompos checks
Hero bets $31.00
RRAAFFAA calls $31.00
Kompos folds
*** TURN *** [ ] []
RRAAFFAA bets $20.00
Hero goes all-in with $75.05
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Old 04-16-2008, 05:43 AM
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Seems standard to me, nh.

You're not folding to that turn bet and so the only option you really have is to shove I think.
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I just had to post and this was the first hand I found

I didn't feel happy about the shove, certainly not a fist pump shove because there are A LOT of highly likely hands that have me in all sorts of trouble! I think villain may even play AA/KK like this.
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usually when I someone raises and I GOTz j/j or q/q i open shove my stack because they will think i got a/k and make the wrong read.
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I think it's a crying shove - like Dave said you can't fold to that bet but then I think calling is pretty horrible too.
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Does that mean I should stop calling 3 bets with mid pair?
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usually when I someone raises and I GOTz j/j or q/q i open shove my stack because they will think i got a/k and make the wrong read.
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You are screwed against 88+ with the exception of JJ/QQ, behind QJ/T9/98 hands and you certainly won't be folding out anything he has here except a pure bluff I don't think. Very few outs if you are behind. Not so uber standard for me.

The only possible brightness here is his line is definitely that of a flush draw with the big call on the flop and "block bet" on the turn, which I'm guessing a guy with these stats isn't often faking his post flop lines.

You have 0 FE against anything but a bluff, a shove is pretty marginal but the right play given his line I guess. For those that say standard, I'd like to know what you read him as having.
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sb944, it wouldn't shock me if he had
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super standard vs this tard
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