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Old 04-05-2008, 07:27 AM
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Default PLO50 - Trip Aces with big kickers

I'm a PLO donk at the moment, trying to learn the game.

Is pre flop a fold?

Should I be betting the flop without 2 pair+/decent draw?

Turn spot is gay but if he has AKxx, A9xx, A2xx, 99xx or 22xx we still have outs, should I call? Should I even be leading the turn?

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I think I rather raise than call pf. At these limits you're probably fine to raise it, but I'm also a PLO donk so take that fwiw.

In an unraised pot I like betting out that flop, obv folding to any action. If anything you at least charge a FD and you have some backdoor draws. When you get a call though I think I shutdown.

I probably c/c turn and hope to fill up.

again though, I'm a donk.
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I pot that hand pre-flop all day long. Any suited ace with 3 connecterish cards is a raise: AJT8, AQ98, A789, etc.

This way your flop bet is meaningful, it drives people out and you win a nice little pot uncontested. By limping in you're inviting gutshot and bottom 2 pair calls on the flop because the implied odds are so heavy.

As far as the turn I check/call to avoid exactly what happened. You can keep the pot small and see the river card, and then simply lead into him if you hit. He's not going to fold on the river.
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I pot that hand pre-flop all day long. Any suited ace with 3 connecterish cards is a raise: AJT8, AQ98, A789, etc.

This way your flop bet is meaningful, it drives people out and you win a nice little pot uncontested. By limping in you're inviting gutshot and bottom 2 pair calls on the flop because the implied odds are so heavy.

As far as the turn I check/call to avoid exactly what happened. You can keep the pot small and see the river card, and then simply lead into him if you hit. He's not going to fold on the river.
Ok thanks, what if we miss the river? c/f?


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depends on the bet he throws out, and also what type of river bettor he is: most PLOers won't bet the end unless they fill.
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depends on the bet he throws out, and also what type of river bettor he is: most PLOers won't bet the end unless they fill.
Right, ok thanks Steve, expect many more hands!
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ZOMG I got it right!

PLO here I come...
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Your post made a lot of sense mate

better than your HE hand analysis
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WTF are u doing post flop is my question.

Check flop, call a min bet, fold to everything else; you have TP 2nd kicker, no draw, and are in a multi way pot.

An ace hits turn which pretty much changes nothing (I guess your ahead of 92 now).

check again. call a small bet. IDK if I call pot, prolly not. 1/2 pot is close, I think i gotta try to hit a FH if we are both over 80bb+

bottom line; you are way too loose. you need much stronger hands to continue post flop. IDK why you bet your ace on the flop, considering most drawing hands have way more equity than you do (so its not a value bet), and they never fold (not a bluff).
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