CO is standard aggressive TAGish player, 20/17/3 over a fair sample.

SB is a complete tard, 75/40/3 over 500 hands, a complete maniac. From what I've seen though he does tend to call alot of 3bets and then give up postflop.

First question, how often do you 3bet this spot as opposed to calling or folding (which is a little nitty I think given how wide the CO range should be)?

Second question, if you 3bet and get faced with the gayness of that flop, how do you proceed?

Thoughts on:

- bet/folding to a shove from either player
- bet/folding to shove from one and call from other (pretty obvious I think)
- bet/calling a shove from either player
- checking and risking giving the free heart, with the plan to bet/fold turn
- checking with the plan to bet/call a shove on the turn
- check/folding

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight | fold when you know you're beat (BETA)

Stacks:
UTG ($18.40)
CO ($101.85)
BTN ($26.95)
SB ($132.50)
Hero ($102.90)

Pre-flop: ($1.5, 5 players) Hero is BB
1 fold, CO bets $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, Hero bets $19, CO calls $16, SB calls $16.

Flop: ($60, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero ???

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Polarise your 3betting range.
3bet AQs/AK and TT+ and 45s type hands, this avoids these type of tough situation with dominated hands in large pots.

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You know sometimes it's alright to just call pre flop with a hand as vunerable as KJo. The fact that BOTH CO and SB called a 5.5x re-raise would certainly have me concerned and right off I'm thinking at least one of them has QQ, JJ or TT. AA or KK most likely would have re-r you all-in preflop but QQ - TT especially from a tighish player would often just call - althou an aggressive maniac I would expect to shove pf with 88 or better. The CO TAG isn't calling with much less than AK or AQs but most likely a pp while the maniac doesn't seem to have enough to raise but enough to call - another pp but more like 99 or TT??

Gotta love and hate that flop all at the same time - top pair but no hearts - ugggh! Most usually I would make the C-bet for $35-$40 but like a crying call I don't have much hope it'll be coming back. The reason I C-bet for 2/3 the pot is that it puts the pressure on the others and has the best chance of taking the pot on the flop and if CO does have QQ but no heart he has a real problem since you've shown no fear of the flush. This is a one shot grab for the pot. Any re-raise and I'm done and if either calls I have to figure I'm already beat or they are on a draw but another shot would put me all-in - do I really want to be all-in with just a pair of Js?

Back to my opening sentence - 5.5 x the pf raise by CO makes for a very big pot with a very medocre and very vunerable hand. This flop would have been a whole lot easier to play with just a call - pot = $10.50 and you open up with a pot size bet to try and take it down right away. Anyone with a flopped set or overpair can't afford to slowplay so you'll know right away if your hand is any good or a mucker - with minimal damage to your stack.

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you usually have the best hand on the flop thats for sure.
TAG prolly has like AQ or 99

i prolly try to check this down.
prolly have to c/f if CO bets, just cant see him bluffing. semi bluff still has equity vs you, when u bet ur never getting called by a hand u dominate, quite the opposite.

pretty sure you woulda gotten 4 bet w/ QQ+ by the TAG

betting stops bluffs though.

I'm not sure a TAG will have the balls to bluff a 9 or T high flush draw.

IMO raising PF is pretty good idea here though. If your image is good.

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What about the A or K high draw?

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what's your image?

I hadn't been at the table too long but have been isolating that maniac at every opportunity. I haven't really got out of line 3betting wise against the TAG, so I'd figure to get a decent amount of credit, that said it is a great spot to squeeze. I'd imagine if the TAG calls he doesn't have QQ+ cos he really has no real reason to believe I'm making a move and need to be trapped.

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I check for another heart. If none comes and he bets, reraise.

I did check, turn was offsuit 9. Maniac minbets (LOL). How are we proceeding here?

Just call minbet?
Raise smallish and fold to shove from TAG?
Shove?
Raise and call shove from TAG?

fwiw if TAG folds at anypoint here I'm more than happy to get it in against the maniac, he could have a ton of hands.

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raising either the flop or the turn without the intention of getting it all in at some point if you get pressed isn't good

TAG's range here is KQ+/66-JJ
donk's range is h00ge and his line is full of shit

It's shove or fold on the turn for the most part. You're obv looking to get it in vs. the donk, the TAG's range has missed for the most part, so an shove being an overbet won't be so bad as the donk won't care so much about the raise size, the TAG (if he's on a flush draw or below) will likely fold with bad odds/one to act behind him, and any bet like 3/4 the pot will leave you with a retarded amount of chips.

it's high variance though. The alternative is calling the donk's minbet, hoping for a brick river and getting a cheap showdown

I'm pretty new to squeeze plays though, so take it fwiw