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Old 03-26-2008, 04:25 AM
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Default 100nl AK with 3bet and 4bet from passive pf

SB is unknown, just sat down at table. Only read is he's full stacked which doesn't say a whole lot, but he might be solid.

UTG is 45/5/1 over 50 hands or so, I've played a few pots with him one notably when he limp-called JJ bvb and then c/c flop and checked turn and river with an overcard showing. I think his range is pretty strong here.

So what are we doing here?

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight | fold when you know you're beat (BETA)

Stacks:
UTG ($41.40)
CO ($98.50)
Hero ($281.50)
SB ($99.00)
BB ($119.85)

Pre-flop: ($1.5, 5 players) Hero is BTN
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, Hero bets $4.50, SB bets $13, 1 fold, UTG goes all-in $40.40, ???
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I just fold til I have a better read.
There are definitley spots at NL100 on RedKings where you can get a bigger edge than this.
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initially read this and was stumped but the fact utg limped and then went ape shit makes this a clear fold. plus if you stick your money in SB never comes along with worse.
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Folding AK? It does look like a tough spot, limp shove means 40BB's are going to be very marginal, and if you do shove the other 60BB's will most likely be worse off if called.

I hate folding AK PF.
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You're definitely going to see the cards. See what he's doing and get him next time.
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I folded.

If the limp/shover had just folded I'm interested about what to do then, with absolutely no reads. Thoughts on best play between:

- 4bet shove
- 4bet to $40 and call shove
- call and shove flop
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Foldfoldfoldfold and be happy you only lost $4.50.
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a 45/5 donk limp/4bet-shoving from UTG is a h00ge red alert, even if he is shortstacked. foldfoldfold
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